nm1163: if for some reason you sort of get lost or want to know more about arms control which of course i assume that you will er Stuart Croft's Strategies of Arms Control is a really good introduction er and i think they have three copies in the library so you should be able to take turns and actually have a look at them er it sort of gives you a brief historical background and then goes into Cold War arms control negotiations and examines essentially the utility of arms control and the question of well is arms control a completely futile concept or is it not now the reason why he wrote the book partly was because namex wrote a book called who is a member of the department now wrote a book called er House of Cards in which he argues very strongly against the ut-, u-, the usefulness of arms control er it was out of print for quite a long time but i hope that because he's joined the department i mean for quite a long time a few years i hope that because he's joined the department it should actually be available at least in the departmental library but i haven't checked i must admit it just occurred to me that i might er that it might actually be available now as well so you have two completely different perspectives Stuart Croft arguing well there is a there is a use there is some use to arms controls and namex going no arms control it's all rubbish it's a completely futile endeavour i'm going to try to introduce you to concepts of arms control as they emerged now as i said last time arms control and arms races are not a phenomenon that's really only limited to the Cold War the reason why we have concentrated so much on arms control during the Cold War was simply because we were d-, we were dealing with nuclear weapons which you know loads about now after attending the lecture last week er from a historical perspective arms races existed well since the well since the beginning of time really one of the first er arms control measures was p-, s-, some po-, i forgot the name now [laugh] this is very embarrassing er outla-, outlawing the longbow simply because there was the idea that er that was an an immoral means of war but then real arms control on a political level er on a on a more concerted level you find before the worl-, the First World War when Russia and Britain both tried to push through er arms control agendas and and translate them into actual policy because they s-, they feared the outbreak of a war so the idea was if we try to cooperate on reducing levels of armament we reduce the security dilemma and therefore er war might actually not break out now there is a false logic to this argument but i get to that later now between the wars you had two broad categories of arms control one the Geneva Conventions which regulated the conduct of war the way in which military equipment was used military operations were conducted how prisoners were to be treated how which er targets were illegitimate targets how submarine warfare for example ought to be conducted or warfare at sea er all essentially aimed at regulating the the conduct of mili-, the conduct of military operations with a view to saving lives destroying the enemy's capabilities but saving lives and those whose lives have been saved and be-, and those who became prisoner were supposed to be treated in a reasonably decent way I-E not tortured et cetera et cetera now as such conventions often go they weren't adhered to in the Second World War er a great deal and obviously you still have violations of these conventions but then the question is might it not be a good idea to just have them for the sake of being able to refer to them the other er major system was the Washington Naval Treaty System in which Britain and the U-S Japan and Germany and France when and other countries but th-, those four countries particularly were meant to reduce their i mean Germany after the First World War had levels of armaments or top levels of armaments imposed on its armed forces at at any rate but they tried to come up with a system which would allow all of them to have some sort of armed forces or naval forces but which would not exceed a specific tonnage er the idea behind that being that if you only have a certain sort of size of ship you can only put a certain amount of weapons and and well weapons which which have s-, have limited capabilities on these ships now the Washington Treaty System also had a political dimension in that it was meant to force the countries that were members of the Washington Naval Treaties to talking to one another and to try to reduce to try to address each other's security concerns without always only bean counting but actually looking at what the political objectives were for each of these countries as we know er the Washington Treaty sys-, wa-, Washington Naval Treaty System did not do its job as intended which is one of the reasons why arms control or i-, which is one example where arms control is sometimes dismissed as completely futile now what what what are generally the aims of arms control i'll just look at them from the two main perspectives realist or neo-realist perspective and the er liberal or neo- liberal perspective from a realist perspective arms control er is essentially meant to maintain the balance of military power I-E that if you assume that if ca-, that capabilities it's particularly military capabilities are what make a state powerful then if there is a balance of military power if none of the states tied into this balance of power is capable of of mustering the military capabilites which would allow it to attack another state with the assumption that it would win the war and that's generally assumed as one of the principal causes of a war that if if there are political conflicts and state A assumes that it could win a war against state B then it is much more likely to actually go and attack that state than if it has capability reasons to assume it won't win that war so by maintaining the balance of military power the assumption was that this could avoid well would be the assum- , er that that this could be s-, that this could avoid war tied into that is obviously managing our old er concept the security dilemma not only with a view to avoiding the outbreak of war er at any given level but also because the security dilemma or or the spiral implied in the concept of security dilemma er implies defence expenditure it's an economic burden if two of or more states constantly respond to each other's increasing armament levels they will spend a lot of money on armed forces and arms control measures might be agreed upon if each side considers the defence expenditure far too high for its economic capabilities or chooses to or or would desi-, would desire to spend public money on things other than defence equipment so from a systemic perspective you could say if two two or more states seek to balance their cost-benefit equation in terms of military and economic security they might engage er in arms control the problem with that is that if you only reduce capabilities then that doesn't in itself prevent war because obviously the capabilities themselves do not cause war it's the intentions which lie behind the capabilities which might er lead to war so in a sense and this is what namex for example would argue arms control leads you into a circular argument because since it's not the capabilities which cause war but political friction and as i will explain later you need trust in order to establish arms control measures by the time you actually would want to go for arms control measures it's quite likely that the states with whom you want to control your weaponry are not prepared to trust you therefore they are not going to negotiate with you so it doesn't make any sense whatsoever and if there is the trust and if there is negotiations are negotiations and if there are there is a preparedness in principle to cooperate politically then you don't need to avoid war so you don't need to control arms that would be one of the sort of perspectives on arms control which which basically says arms control doesn't do anything for anyone including for the stability in regions or the international system now from a more liberal perspective the argument would be the central benefit of arms control negotiations is that they can come up with rules and norms of behaviour and as you will see later in the context of nuclear er weapons and prolifera-, er well nuclear weapons regulation that was a particularly prevalent argument partly er a liberal perspective of course is or this this idea that you can generate rules and norms of behaviour er in the er on the on an international level or on a regional level through arms control that is tied in with the idea that weapons will only be be used as a last resort only if everything else has failed or if war is about to be pressed upon a state then a liberal state would find it necessary to defend itself but it would not necessarily advocate the use of force in order for for aggressive purposes now whether that still holds in today's environment where the use of force and the conditions for the use of force are changing is a different question er a liberal perspective would furthermore emphasize the economic prosperity aspects of security building mechanisms er more than only to a limited degree but more than defence expenditure because there is liberals tend to see more of a trade-off between creating stability and security through economic means and the ability to preserve military or security by military means so from that perspective cooperation becomes more of a possibility even if this cooperation is seen essentially also as a means to fend off external threats which the international environment might throw at the state but that then leads in an argumentative line to the idea that economic gains through interdependence are preferable to using military means for the condu-, conduct of international politics that peaceful conflict resolution is er is essentially better than using force and that confidence and security building measures that's what this abbreviation means are a means of arms control in the sense that they control the will to use arms rather than on the fir-, in the first place the capabilities which the er weapons on each side convey sm1164: so what does C nm1163: sorry sm1164: C-S-B-M stand for nm1163: confidence and security building measures sometimes you might find this also as just C-B-M which is confidence building measures now how is arm-, arms control conducted or what are the instruments of arms control much arms control happens on a state to state level since the end of the Cold War there is quite a lot of arms control which needs to happen in in the context of conflict resolution or resolution of conflicts in intra-state wars but that's a slightly separate issue now arms can be controlled nationally simply by a state imposing or a government imposing export controls we'll find that in the nuclear er non-proliferation regime er you find i i briefly touched upon that er in the context of dual use goods you found that although it doesn't always work or very often doesn't work er with regard to nat states that have a strong defence industry but also at least would like to pursue a policy which doesn't send arms into already conflict ridden regions watched through government sanction that they impose export controls temporary export controls and they are then this is then essentially a policy of unilateral restraint unilateral restraint can also be imposed of course on the development of certain weapon systems that some states just decide not to go for a particular weapon system or a particular technology which of course is a measure of arms control once you go on to sort of an international level and if you want to try to enshrine arms control measures on that level you have two options either states agra-, agree on a bilateral basis to reduce or control arms or their armaments or they agree on a bilateral level to unilateral measures that pro-, prohibit the pro-, the proliferation of certain technologies or you pursue a multilateral perspective which is particularly favoured for non-proliferation regimes now the difference between arms the you could say that non-proliferation is a subsection of arms control er just sort of for for conceptual clarification controlling arms essentially means controlling the level of armaments non-proliferation means preventing the spread of weapon systems or weapons technology so there is there is a slight difference but it's a significant difference between the two concepts bilaterally and multinationally er you have again different types of options you can either go for arms limitation or arms reduction treaties where the two sides agree to actually cut out a whole class of weapons there are arms or technology transfer controls or regimes regimes being multinational agreements which are then nationally implemented and which impose on the the members of the regime a set of rules and norms as to what they may and may not do which in turn is meant to make it more predictable for each of the members to know what another member is likely to do there are of course pitfalls to this but this is the the positive er the the perceived positive aspect of regime building you can have weapons exclusion zones where for example nuclear weapons are not not permitted or all the states in a particular zone region er agree not to acquire nuclear weapons moratoria which well particularly linked to nuclear weapons tests or one state would declare a moratorium on nuclear weapons testing which of course puts the other members of the nuclear power community under pressure if they also want to gain the moral high ground that they might also er call for a moratorium on their weapons testing and finally notification schemes which is essentially well it's one core of confidence and security building measures and that is because there is the assumption that capabilities might be might well the the possession of capabilities might trigger a war and there is also from a conventional war perspective still the very strong assumption that surprise attack is always better for the aggressor than sort of giving away too much now the reason why exercises and well exercises became an issue of notification schemes for exercises became an issue was that if armies exercise armies the air forces navies a potentially hostile state in the case of NATO and Warsaw Pact if NATO exercises the Warsaw Pact would look at NATO's exercises and go well what are they planning to do might they actually be tempted to attack us now but if there is early notification of what sort of exercises are going to be conducted er not what exactly they are going to exercise but how many soldiers or troops are going to be moved base-, how long the exercise is going to er going to be then the other side has some sort of reasonable way of assessing this exercise is just a pretence for an aggressive act or not now this is actually quite that that this was actually quite important during the Cold War because er NATO in fact did launch a missile as part of its exercise but that missile went astray and the Soviet Union wasn't sure whether that was an attack or not and because they had good communications that meant that the that nothing worse than er just a small little blip happened it could have been otherwise if there hadn't been a way of notifying each other of this and then for the Soviet Union to actually assure that this was not an aggressive act now how effective can arms control be if you have treaties on a government to government level whether they are multilateral or bilateral they constitute then international law but that means the implementation of the treaty depends on each government which poses a bit of a problem because yes governments agree to control or limit their their military arsenals but how does government A know that governments B C and D are actually complying with the commitment they entered into in the treaty the second issue is therefore that there has to be a degree of transparency in the arms control process now transparency really has two functions when it's talked about in the context of arms control one is that during arms control treaty negotiations each side is tasked with putting its capabilities more or less accurately on the table they have because they know the other side has been spying on them so they can't be completely off the mark so in a sense during the arms control negotiations they will try to tease out of each other what they have the other aspect of transparency is when it comes to implementing the arms control treaty that they have just agreed on er and that is that whatever arms control measures have been agreed upon that should actually be verifiable and be made transparent by a multinational observer group or by er a small group of the opposite state now that doesn't always happen and there are actually a lot of arms control treaties which while still regarded valuable but which don't have either verification or transparency measures in that sense built into them particularly with regard to nuclear biological and chemical weapons the irreversibility of the arms control measures has gained very high priority in any sort of arms control negotiations but of course particularly with regard to nuclear and biological weapons where we have had most movement so transparency and verification are two essential components of arms control measures because yes you can say we have to trust each other but then checking whether it's worth trusting the other side is of course better than er just believing it and if the other side is compliant then that generates more trust which might in turn lead to more arms control measures if everything goes well and it often doesn't now you may recall that i mentioned on the side some time ago that the Cuban Missile Crisis was an important turning point in the way in which nuclear deterrence between the Soviet Union and the U-S was conducted now why was it so essential it was essential because it showed the two sides that they had no quick means of talking to one another that if anything happened if any nuclear accident happened they couldn't they would have to go through each other's embas-, er so through yeah their embassies and or each other's embassies to then and send letters by diplomatic post which is quicker than if they if it went by normal post but still it takes a little while and when when when we're talking about nuclear weapons and you didn't want to take that long er so the the need to actually be able to pick up the phone and talk to one another became a hugely important aspect of the way arms control negotiations started and it was really the first agreement that was that was implemented in nineteen- sixty-three meant they had a direct line between the Kremlin and the White House following that er we had several different measures which were meant to prevent or ha-, er were were were included er notification about nuclear accidents accidents at sea er the Limited Test Band treaty and from nineteen- sixty-nine onwards the two sides of the U-S and the Soviet Union engaged in what became known as the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks now i mentioned SALT as an issue which the Europeans saw with some trepidation because as i said the negotiations went on between the U-S and the Soviet Union and didn't include either the European Warsaw Pact members or the European er NATO members so the worry on the part of the Europeans was that the U-S and the Soviet Union might actually break out to a degree of of their alliance well pa-, particularly for the for the er European NATO members that was the concern and that therefore the U-S might find a settlement which enhanced its own security through nuclear arms control but also made it less likely that so-, that the U- S would intervene or would come to the aid of NATO Europe if there was Soviet attack what it did do apart from the U-S then having to reiterate its point that it wouldn't er defect what SALT-one did was more a political achievement than an actual military achievement because it started a process of arms control negotiations which lasted through the entire nineteen-seventies was then interrupted for about five years because the Cold War became colder again and was then taken up really where SALT-two had left it in the start negotiations about which i will tell you briefly in a minute a central treaty er linked to SALT-one was the A-B-M Treaty the er Anti- Ballistic Missile Treaty that was central because it enshrined the rationale that the well the the rationale which the U-S had favoured for a long time that nuclear deterrence should be b-, based on authentic capability with the A-, with the signing of the A-B-M Treaty which allowed the Soviet Union and the U-S to build anti-ballistic missile defences around first only one site each and then two sites er in in the respective country with the Soviet Union signing this treaty they basically said yes defence against nuclear weapons is not possible therefore or it's not affordable either therefore we are going to join you in building our capabilities or building deterrents on on offensive capabilities and this is essentially seen as the principal stability enhancing quality of the A-B-M Treaty now the reason i'm going on about this is that at the moment and f-, during the entire nineteen-nineties the U-S has pursued and is seriously thinking about deploying a national ballistic missile defence system and you have the same arguments over again as to what a national ballistic missile defence system will do for international and for European se-, security because if the sov-, if the U-S can can defend itself is it likely to actually come to the aid of allies for the allies it means are they going to spend their money on a European ballistic missile defence system which will also give them some degree some limited capability to f-, to defend themselves against missiles now no longer coming from well now the assumption is no longer that it that they primarily come from the Soviet un-, from well the successors of the Soviet Union but because Iraq Korea and well several mid-, Middle Eastern states and several asia-, er east Asian states have started building ballistic missiles which have now by now a medium range capability and the assumption is that well we need a ballistic missile defence system because these states are otherwise going to attack us now how serious this threat is is a hugely controversial issue they may have these capabilities but they may not want to attack Europe and is a ballistic missile defence system not an invitation for one of these states that is pursuing ballistic missile development to actually try and penetrate this ballistic missile defence system how secure can it be do you need a hundred per cent security or do you need eighty per cent security what if you feel secure under your ballistic missile defence system and have spent loads of money on the on that but you don't have any money for other defensive measures so it's an it's an enormously important issue which you will hear of much more if you read the newspaper and if er George W Bush is becoming president because he has already said that he will definitely deploy Clinton earlier this year er took back the earlier decision that the uni-, that the the U-S will definitely get a ballistic a national ballistic missile defence system Gore is basically pursuing a Clinton line but Bush has said we're going to go for it what that does for European defence is an issue we really need to think about hence the A- B-M Treaty being a very important historical relic and Russia i should add that just just for your full information Russia is seriously against any deployment of ballistic missile defence systems they there there have been talks as to what how they might cooperate on this er or not but Russia clings very much to the idea that the A-B-M Treaty is really unviable er unvialable er going back to SALT SALT re-, limited really the deployment the number of deployments of medium range missiles these were missiles which were no longer going to be produced but they just agreed that they that they were essentially it was essentially outdated technology by the time but they agreed that they would no longer er develop them and deploy them it didn't have any verification measures apart from national technical means which is essentially spy planes or spy satellites er and there were no observer missions or anything built into this but the idea that they were talking about arms control was already seen as one mean a one one positive step forward SALT-two went a lot further but was never ratified because the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan and U-S Congress then refused to ratify the treaty following the invasion of Afghanistan obviously as you all know the Cold War became a lot colder so it took until the advent of Mikhail Gorbachev to start some new approach to arms control some people argue that it was really Ronald Reagan's massive build up of nuclear and conventional capabilities of the U-S forces which escalated as you all know in the S-D-I proposal which is essentially the precursor to the ballistic missile defence systems we are talking about now so some people would argue that er Ronald Reagan out procured outarmed the Soviet Union others would say and i think they have a stronger case to make that Gorbachev's policy swing towards reasonable sufficiency in Soviet defence planning and Soviet defence spending was a major step forward which enabled nuclear arms reductions reasonable sufficiency was essentially a policy which went back from we have to have massive forces in any conceivable theatre that we might have to fight in to well how much do we actually need given the political situation surrounding us given that we are pursuing a policy that is meant to build friendly relations with all our neighbours and you can see that on the policy level that the Soviet Union went out and and started rebuilding trust between itself and its neighbours not least in order to have external stability for dome-, domestic political and economic reform er and that was these diplomatic er for-, forays where replicated on the military level by er a new design of the defence of defence policy which would use defence spending and went for smaller amount of forces you also have Gorbachev pro-, er suggesting in various fora conventional arms reductions now the West didn't take that too seriously for quite a long time because the arms reductions he proposed essentially concerned weapons systems which were outdated such as small submarines in the Baltic sea but START-one which the U-S and and then still the Soviet Union signed in nineteen-ninety and was then ratified in nineteen-ninety- two was A an extension of the concept started in the SALT treaties I-E that launcher systems and platforms would be reduced not nuclear warheads that became an issue soon after START-one was signed but it was the first treaty which really significantly reduced nuclear long range or strategic er launch platforms in nineteen- ninety-five you also have the er well they agreed to reduce no nineteen-eighty-seven sorry wrong wrong date they agreed on er a complete reduction or a comp-, comp-, complete elimination of intermediate nuclear forces which er was the first time ever that a whole class of weapons was going to be abolished now START-one as much as it was a positive development soon ran into an enormous problem because what they had of course not contended with was that the Soviet Union would collapse now i said earlier if you have government to government treaties or any sort of international treaty then it is up t-, up to the government which has signed the treaty to implement the treaty now with the collapse of the Soviet Union in nineteen- ninety-two you had all of a sudden Russia Ukraine Khazakhstan and who else Belarus er with nuclear weapons on their territory they then needed to be brought into the fold in a series of other negotiations so that they would actually ship back Soviet built nuclear missiles to Russia where they could then be where they could then be er destroyed START-two foresaw reductions down to three-thousand warheads on each side well two-thousand-five-hundred to three- thousand on each side and was not ratified by Russia for a very long time they dragged their feet until April two-thou of this year until they finally er decided to to er to ratify the Duma the reasons for that are hugely complicated very technical and er i'm not going to go into them but only what a few days ago er Putin proposed a new round of arms control negotiations which er worked well which are to be aimed at reducing the level of nuclear warheads on each side down to one-thousand er which would be very significant START-three they've talked about two-thousand so far but if they go for a thousand then that would be a further step forward multinational arms control or international arms control the core of the nuclear non-proliferation regime is obviously the nuclear non-proliferation treaty it is to be over well the I-A-E-A the International Atomic Energy Agency which is associated with the U-N is not a verification agency in terms of an agency which could prevent nuclear weapons from deve-, from being developed but it is a a verification agency which assesses whether the countries that are members and have agreements which its with its inspectors whether they are using nuclear material for the purposes that they have committed themselves to I-E not for military purposes the I-A-E-A in essence is an audit organization which checks the books of all in all the er installations for which it has er access rights but it doesn't ca-, cannot prevent nuclear weapons development it's been recently earlier in this er in in in the last decade it has been strengthened but it still has only very limited er limited access rights the central deal in the N-P-T was that the four five permanent members of the security council all of whom had nuclear weapons by the time the N-P-T was er agreed upon in nineteen-sixty-seven that they would give access to nuclear material and technology for the pa-, production of power er electricity and any other peaceful purposes medical use for example er or in agriculture they would give access to this information and to this material to all the members of the N-P-T which joined the N-P-T but these members had to commit themselves to not procuring nuclear weapons I-E the trade- off was we abstain from nuclear weapons if you give us nuclear technology it's significant to remember that at the time nuclear power was seen as one of the major potential motors for development in lesser developed countries because you could produce a lot of power out of very very little material now if the investment in nuclear power has turned out to be enormously expensive in financial terms and of course there are serious risks associated with the use of nuclear power in turn the the P-five so-called nuclear weapons states committed themselves in article six to working towards early nuc-, com-, early and complete nuclear disarmament at the earliest possible time now their article six commitment has become an even more contentious issue than it was soon after it became apparent that the P-five had no intention to really seriously go towards zero during the Cold War since the end of the Cold War they have come under a lot more pressure from countries which used to belong to the non-alliant movement er trying to force them into actually making serious steps towards complete nuclear disarmament the N-P-T is not the only element of the nuclear non-proliferation regime national measures have also been taken by those countries that had advanced nuclear er had access to or developed nuclear technology and they these measures are are sort of can be subsumed under nuclear suppliers regulations the London Club has come up with a list of trigger technologies which are supposed to be subjected to particularly stringent export controls and for which licenses have to be er er well obtained before they can be exported and they have committed themselves not to export any weapons related er technologies to non-weapon states and you have regional regul-, er regulations so you have s-, er a multitier system in the form of EUROTOM associated with the E-U finally you have as i already said on the national level ex-, national export controls which are not tied into er a wider system and a so-called fuel takeback policy which has been on and off er er whatever since it was started by the nuclear weapon states because the idea was that if a country runs nuclear power reactors it can in principle obtain the material for weapons from the fuel rods that have to go into the pow-, the reactor but if the state that has produced the fuel takes these these fuel rods bage-, back back and then supplies fresh fuel rods then the country that runs just the nuclear power station won't get access to that material the Partial Test Ban Treaty and the c-, the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty the Partial Test Ban Treaty is no problem that's been signed and ratified the C-T-B-T has huge political problems attached to it the reason why the C-T-B-T is seen as a valuable arms control measure is that in order to build up a militarily useful nuclear arsenal it is necessary to test weapons and these tests in most countries still would have to be done physically which means er that if you restrict testing then you put a break into the development cycle or nuclear er technology weapons technology er however not only the so- called rogue state or rogue states which the U-S called them tends to call rogue states but also the U-S haven't signed the er ratified the C-T-B-T yet remains to be seen whether that will be done and just one example for a nuclear weapons free zone was the Treaty of Tlatelolco which is always a tongue breaker er signed in which established a nuclear weapons free zone for Latin America in nineteen-sixty-eight now a lot of the problems associated with nuclear nuclear technology is there a problem sm1165: could you put the last one back up please nm1163: [laughter] you had so much time can't believe it i've been rambling on for ages hurry up i've got a few more got it right the problems with er nuclear weapons or nuclear material are essentially the same problems that you encounter with biological and chemical weapons now i've talked about that already briefly so i don't need to er go into that at great length er biological chemical and nuclear weapons share one characteristic which is that the central ingredient the central ingredient which causes the harm is dual use it's used for all sorts of purposes a nuclear reactor can be built in such a way or run in such a way that it just produces energy but it can also be run in such a way that it produces uranium and plutonium er it's particularly the uranium which you would need for building nuclear weapons now by making nuclear material accessible and usable you always run the risk that you cannot survey the use of that material adequately and actually check whether it's not going to be diverted in small amounts biological and chemical weapons you have essentially the same problem anyone who would want to start a lab in which biological weapons are to be produced essentially only needs to contact some farming supplier here and get the bacteria he or she wants and then start a production line for particular toxins for particular microbes things that that are not which are not very difficult to get you can you can buy cheaply and then produce in massive amounts chemical weapons very similar issue a lot of the er chemical or a lot of the elements which go into er chemical weapons are used in agriculture or in all sorts of other industries with civilian application now the real problem arises when we think about how biological chemical or even nuclear weapons are might be distributed and the most attractive means of doing that is by missiles now since the end of the nineteen-eighties ballistic missiles have ba-, ballistic missile technology which is also very largely dual use technology has been proliferating quite widely to a number of countries particularly er in west south and east Asia the three main treaties we have at the moment which are trying to sort of contain this are the ones listed here biological weapons convention the main problem as i said is that there is no there are no verification procedures although the U- S and Russia have an agreement by which the U-S is aiding Russia to reduce its biological weapons arsenal and destroy them which of course has the verification component attached to that most notorious problem is conventional arms control because a lot of them well all the main weapons exporters have an interest for industrial employment but particularly military reasons to maintain a defence industry now because they can't apart from the U-S they can't afford to build the weapons that would make defence production economical only for their own armed forces they have to export otherwise they have to change their defence policy entirely but of course once you start doing that there are a lot of links in the chain and there are a lot of links which may not be interested in exporting weapons in accordance with international treaties er government regulation and such like plus of course nobody really wants to be too open about what sort of weapon systems they have in their in their arsenal because they don't want to give away too much so all the attempts at reducing conventional weapons which are not in a in a context or which were not conceived in the Cold War context particularly here the Conventional Forces of Europe Treaty er which was signed in nineteen-ninety which reduced the arsenals of both blocks brought both blocks down which then of course entailed a host of different problems as to implementing the treaty when the two blocks disintegrated or the Warsaw Pact disintegrated all the other agreements are very very vague they are conventions they are aimed at at creating norms at er generating rules and voluntary adherence to rules the Wassenaar Agreement is essentially a follow on to the COCUM Agreement which the West had impl-, had instated to limit exports of high technol-, high military use technology to the Warsaw Pact er Wassenaar is not very different from that the U-N conventional weapons register problem here returns to the v-, register through national governments are voluntary and even if er a government returns only an empty sheet it doesn't it it counted as a return but it doesn't really enhance transparency but nevertheless the conventional weapons register is meant to enhance transparency code of conduct we will probably hear a bit more about in the future again which is essentially also a means of trying to stimulate norms just to make the i know i'm overrunning slightly just to make it complete these are a few examples of confi-, confidence and security building measures which as i said before are aimed at initiating a dialogue and building trust through talking to one another how far they are they can be in themselves an instabil-, or a stability increasing tool without any other ingredients is highly doubtful there has to be at least the initial will and that is often tied in with incentives as to what will be the actual gain out of negotiations er before anything substantive happens but the other examples are essentially the ones that i have mentioned already in other words exchange of observers well exe-, exchange of e-, exchange of observers is essentially it's it's tied in with the notification of military exercises er idea and that is if if one for example at the end of the Cold War if the Warsaw Pact exercised or NATO exercised each side NATO would send or would be invited to send observers to some of the exercises in the Warsaw Pact and the Warsaw Pact was invited to send some observers to NATO exercises only selected ones but at least a beginning now where do we go from here arms control has become a lot more complicated in the contemporary environment because we don't have the blocks any more well i can over overrun another five minutes but i don't think that would be a very good idea er the possibly most promising way of approaching arms control issues is really in a multilevel er set up that we don't only rely on international arms control measures but also on regional or try to simulate regional arms control and bilateral understanding between states that are at risk of accelerating arms races or running up or well engaging in an arms race in the first place one of the principal advantages of doing that would be that neighbours who need to talk to one another before any confidence can be built are actually then capable of sitting down together and trying to sort out their differences how much the international community can help in this if we look at south Asia then it's not enormously encouraging it may be that in some areas or some regions we will just have to wait until arms control becomes a possibility and that there isn't an awful lot that can be done what within the scholarly community has become a major issue in researching arms control is how norms can be established and particular norms in the international on the on an international level and how norms can be preserved so that what has already been gained for example in the context of nuclear arms control isn't going to be reversed er in the future so much for today thank you very much for your attention i do apologize for the rather accelerated speed at the end [laughter] shan't happen on Thursday