sf5331: maybe number whoever's number eight sf5329: but how do you know who's gon-, going to be number eight su: yeah sf5331: whoever's going to be a number eight sm5341: do we all get blindfolded at the same time sm5338: we could kind of clap your number or something instead of like su: yeah sf5337: yeah that's a good idea sm5338: clap your number sf5329: go round in a circle sf5336: yeah sm5339: but how are you going to sort out who is going to go first sm5341: oh we'll just sort of clap and then sf5337: pick someone now sf5336: s-, someone just starts randomly clapping sf5329: well whoever's number one should clap first sm5338: yeah yeah and then like sf5329: and then they should stand away from the group sm5341: what if no-one's number one sf5329: and then link hold out hands or something and be like i don't know sm5338: and then like number two walk over to them or whatever sf5337: yeah yeah what if no-one's no-one's one though sf5329: yeah yeah number two will have to walk over to then cos you will hear them clap and er can walk over to them sm5341: but i think someone should just clap sf5337: i think someone should start because if we're not if we don't start at once sm5339: if we sort if we sort out an order of clapping now sf5336: right you have ten minutes before your task begins during the task all members of the team will be blindfolded and nobody will be allowed to talk at the start of the task each team member will be given a number which will be known only to them your task is to form your team into a straight line in ascending order of numbers you will have ten minutes to complete the task su: sorry continue sm5339: unfortunately we're going to have to put someone in charge of sorting out sf5329: the numbers sm5339: the clapping sf5337: sorting out the clapping i think the hand on the shoulder and go in a line idea is a good plan like the person at the front like just like touches someone on the shoulder and then they do their number and then they can position it i don't know sf5329: yeah yeah sf5336: but it's going to be a lot of work for just one person sm5341: that's alright though sf5336: but then if you have you cant have more than one because you can't talk so it's going to have to be one sm5339: if you have two then it's going to mess up sf5336: yeah exactly sf5337: so who's volunteering sm5341: i can just see this not working actually and everybody just walking off over there sf5337: we need to i think we need to sort of sort of join shoulders or something at the start so we don't lose everyone sort of thing sf5329: well we'll just have to make sure that no-one moves really set a ground rule that you don't move until the organiser moves you sf5336: pulls you and pushes you sm5339: if we start in a line at the beginning sf5337: yeah yeah sm5339: then we can swap people round sf5336: yeah that's a good idea sm5341: yeah if we can we'll do that but if we can't sf5331: but if we're in a line you and and there's one person sorting sorting you out how are they going to reach sm5339: 'cause if they're staying behind a line sm5341: i know i've got sf5329: but as long as you are in a line it will be easy to find the front or the back because you'll just you'll know where people are sm5341: i've got an idea for the numbers sorry right if if we take it in turns to clap and we all clap the number we've got and then the person with the lowest number steps back and then the person with the second highest number su: alright sm5341: if you can see all you've got to remember is like whether your's was highest or second highest sf5337: but we still won't be able to get ourselves in order doing that cause we won't be able to see anything sm5341: you can hear you can hear the clapping sf5329: we'll have to set someone now to start clapping and it'll have to go anti-clockwise or clockwise sm5339: if we no if we go in a line now it'll be easier to keep in a line as opposed to in a circle when we have to spread out sf5337: i think yeah i think sf5329: so is one person going to be in charge of organising sf5337: Charles i think sm5339: me alright sf5337: let's get in a line now sf5329: if if Charles taps you on the shoulder once you're blindfolded then clap your number again sf5331: are you organising sf5329: yeah sf5331: right sf5337: does that sound all right sf5333: well maybe maybe if say if we choose like Natalie claps first and Natalie claps and i think okay my number's lower than Natalie so i'm going to go to her left hand side and if your number's higher than Natalie's you go on her right and then she gives a signal to say like or maybe we have a signal that we've all finished so we could like all do something to say yeah we've all finished and then we like maybe then Claire does hers Claire claps hers but then i don't know sf5330: what's the second what can the second one be when you're finished besides clapping su: no that just sounds exactly the same sf5330: i can't whistle sf5333: are we allowed to use vocals at all or just not talking nm5327: you'll have to read the rules sf5333: it just say nobody's allowed to talk but it doesn't say no noises sf5334: we could make animal noises moo sm5340: no nm5327: except we've got two koalas su: yeah they don't make any noise though sf5330: what sound does a flamingo make sf5333: what does a giraffe do i don't know sf5337: okay so should we recap so eveyone knows what we are doing er are we standing in a line cause C-, Charles okay if he he's going to be leader if he stands at the end sm5339: if i if i stand if i stand at this end and start the clapping and then we go along on a line sf5337: and yeah and if he and he's going to try and put you in order and if he taps you on the side then clap sm5341: and then he can just work out where sf5337: and then he can work it out right so should we get in a line sm5339: so if someone has someone gets number one-hundred and three sf5333: er okay so it can't be clapping we've got that sf5330: i don't know actually animal noises are quite a good idea sf5333: we could do that or i can't even do that sf5334: yeah a noise like that yeah and then we know sf5333: ok so maybe when we're all so when you've kind of stopped you can just go and then like we'll just wait until everyone's done it so you have to wait until you've heard it six times or something i don't know sm5340: what so we're saying highest number to the right and lowest number to the left yeah sf5333: shall we have like a practice run just pretend we've got numbers okay su: yeah that's a good plan su: how many of us are there's six sm5340: okay sf5333: can we get in a line already so should we go in this order so if we remember or do you reckon should we go in likealphabetical order so we remember who's next su: yeah sf5333: cause i won't remember who's standing next to me sm5340: okay so i'm at the back sf5333: where am i C you're at the end you're first Claire so you stand this end i'll stand next to you sf5334: are we doing surname or first name sf5333: first name i can't remember surnames sm5340: wait wait names sf5333: okay so do you want to go first close your eyes so we can feel like we're into it sf5330: okay what am i doing sf5333: you're just choosing a number in your head pretending we're having a practice run sf5330: okay i'll need to clap sf5333: so just clap and then when you clap we're all going to move round you sf5330: all of you okay sf5333: yeah er sf5334: actually no i think she should move into her position she should move down the line and go one two three sf5333: but how does she how does she sf5330: but i don't know what everyone else has got su: how does she know sm5340: yeah what if someone's picked the same number sf5333: we have got ten minutes to move so we could listen to everyone's and we'll remember like what order we're in cause we're in alphabetical order then when we've heard everyone's like we could say okay now after we've heard Vince Claire moves sf5330: yeah sf5334: yeah might be a better idea sf5330: yeah then we stop and then start sf5333: so she has to think okay am i going to go like and she can stand in well she can feel she can say right okay i'm the i'm like number two so she's if her number's fourth in the line she'll make sure she's standing in front of sf5330: that's a good idea actually sf5333: Natalie so if she just moves in front of Natalie and then or maybe er sf5330: yeah that's good if we all do it like do our numbers first and then we'll move from there once everyone else has done it yeah ss: yeah sf5333: okay so should we just have a practice and see if it works go on then sm5339: start the start the line now sf5337: Charles does it yeah sf5329: are we standing sm5339: i'll stand this way su: right we're standing like that su: like this sf5337: we can't even in a line sf5331: are we standing side to side or sf5329: yeah stand like that sf5331: okay sf5329: facing this way and then he can walk along our back's and do it sf5331: okay sf5337: yeah it'll be easier once its in a line yeah sf5336: right sf5337: we've still got five minutes sf5336: we've still got five minutes yeah sf5337: right so is everyone clear sf5331: so how are you going to confirm at the end just go along and touch everyone on the shoulder sm5339: yeah touch everyone's shoulder and we have to count sm5338: well touch it twice sf5337: what sf5329: well as long as he touches your shoulder you know to clap so sm5341: yeah but then everybody's just going to be clapping sf5337: well when he's done it sf5330: what if we all get the same number sf5333: so you're going to do a clap sf5330: yeah okay sf5333: oh well that's just we'll deal with that if it happens sf5330: er su: i didn't even hear that su: honestly sf5333: no we have to clap pretty loud see we have to i'm thinking now are we going to are we going to do a count to kind of five so i'm going to go and then do mine su: yeah i think so sf5330: yeah sf5333: just so there's enough gap okay so we've all we've all heard that okay sf5336: what if the numbers are really high numbers sm5339: i know sm5338: i don't think they will be sf5331: they can't be that would be cruel surely it's got to be one to eight sf5337: how long have we got to actually complete the whole thing we've got time to clap a hundred haven't we su: problem is going round sm5341: right if they are really high numbers we'll just like clap each digit so if it's like three-hundred and ten you just clap three times sm5338: how are you going to know that sf5331: yeah how are you it's not one two three space sm5341: for the nought for the nought no just go one two three one and then do ten for the nought because you can't do nought su: and how do you not know it's three-thousand one-hundred and ten sm5341: because nought is ten claps it's not going to happen so it doesn't matter su: i bet it will sm5339: if it's a high number right say if you are number ten sm5341: number ten just clap ten times cause sf5337: if it's a high number can't we do the like one O five or something like that with our hands sf5329: he won't be able to see that's the only trouble sm5339: we have to do we have to do the clapping we have to sort it out if we have a if it's a number higher than ten i go with his idea if you do it in sets so if it's three hundred you do three then wait a bit then two for twenty sf5331: what if it's a nought sm5339: if it's a nought you do ten sf5337: so if its three-hundred you do three then ten and then another ten sm5339: you do three then ten then ten sf5336: or can't cant you just stamp your feet or something for a nought sf5337: oh yeah okay yeah sf5336: go one two three and then stamp and then stamp again sf5337: so that would be three-hundred so three hundred and two would be sf5336: yeah su: right sf5331: how will you ever remember all those numbers sm5339: i'm not it's gon-, it's going to take about twenty minutes for me to sort everyone out sf5337: but if it's below ten sf5336: how long have we got sf5331: it must be just one it must be i hope so sf5329: okay so what sf5336: we've got ten minutes to do it sf5329: which end is going to be the low end and which end is going to be the high end sf5336: right so ascending order sm5339: okay this is going to be do we have to be in a straight line sf5329: yeah we've got to be in ascending order sm5338: yeah people need to move a bit further along sort of thing sm5339: yeah but if we if we have this end as the low end and then everyone turns to the left once we're finished then we'll be in a straight line ascending order now which way round sm5341: i'm sure when when we've heard everyone clap like right near the end if someone's in the wrong place we'll know su: even if we start this way we'll be okay sm5341: we just go down the whole line sm5338: we could like pass people along and like if they're a number lower than you you pass them that way sort of thing and so go along the line and clap then if like sm5341: yeah yeah that's what i was saying earlier on sm5338: yeah why don't we do that then sf5337: you're just going to have to sort of drag us sf5331: and to er make sure they who it you've got to be touching as well just in case you just sort of fall over or something sf5329: or somebody ends up down there or something sm5340: this is so not what are we doing sf5333: Claire are you going to move first sf5330: i can't remember what everyone's was su: it's going to be so funny on the video sf5333: oh no okay yeah i'm trying i'm trying to do it in my head so i'm going okay three like five one two four six and su: you did five i did four and six sf5333: so i was just kind of trying to think that in my head sf5334: cos maybe if number one moves along the line first the person who's number one sm5340: no what if the person from yeah sf5332: yeah moves to the end and nu-, number two moves sf5333: so how do how do we kn-, know we're going to get number one and number two and number three and number four and number five we could get like twenty- five or a hundred su: well the lowest number then sm5340: well if we move the back person moves first and then the next person and then after you've finished moving you just like clap or something or does that sound st-, sf5333: that's so the person who knows they've got the lowest number is going to sm5340: yeah sf5330: come to the end or go to sf5334: yeah the person with the lowest number if they just go okay everyone's finished clapping and then th-, they just go like this and make sure they're at the front and just feel their way to the front sm5340: oh yeah yeah yeah su: yeah sf5333: and Claire's pretty tall so you can just go okay i'm sf5334: yeah and then just like each person sm5340: yeah that'll work that'll work sf5334: then the second highest number then move until they are second to the front sf5333: yeah sf5334: what do you reckon sf5333: and if we if we know this order then we know like what order we clapped in so we should know who's got the number next to us so we can say okay this is i've got she's next to me and she's next to me sf5334: if yeah but if they give us really high numbers and we're going one two three four five six seven eight nine ten then we're not going to remember what we each clapped sf5333: okay we could we could sf5332: what could be like a signal to like if we don't hear it we need something to like get someone to repeat do you know what i mean sf5333: we could actually do it two times sf5334: yeah so we sf5333: cause we've got enough time to do it two times i reckon su: cause it's not timed when we actually do is it sf5333: it's ten minutes just got ten minutes to get into it su: ten minutes before your task sf5333: you know what we could do if it's double figures we could do like su: oh yeah ten minutes sm5340: no we need sf5334: does anybody know how long we've had sm5340: er sf5334: no sf5333: oh shit we didn't do that sf5334: nevermind we're quite sorted anyway sf5333: okay i reckon if it's double figures or triple figures we have to do it so like maybe if it's twenty-seven you could do like su: yeah do that inbetween sm5340: what hold tight sf5333: so you know that like su: twenty-seven twenty-seven yeah sf5333: and then kind of because otherwise we're going to be going oh my god quick i've got to do thisand to count and it's just going to be crazy su: okay so that's the sf5333: right we'll have to look sm5340: i thought this was i thought we'd be i thought we were just being given numbers from one to six sf5330: it just says numbers doesn't it sf5333: it just says numbers so we have to like just be prepared sm5340: do you want to drop a hint sf5335: if it's something like one-hundred then you're going to be like su: zero sf5330: oh yeah what su: if it's zero you're going to have to do something else sf5334: what are you just going to go so you know you've had a number inbetween but it's a nothing number sf5333: yeah but have that for zero oh yeah but what are we going to do if it's to separate oh this sm5340: this is so not going to work at all er su: that doesn't sound much different does it sf5333: it does sound quite different su: you can tell i think sf5333: so that could be maybe be sf5334: we could do a dance sf5333: that could maybe be zero sm5339: ah yeah okay sm5338: what he's going to tap us on the shoulder and then sf5337: oh yeah nm5326: okay could i have everybody's attention please right could you please all put your blindfold's on and you must stop talking at this point su: what about our number sm5340: have we actually decided what we're doing nm5326: stop talking sf5336: oh my glasses nm5326: stop talking please and put your blindfolds on alright okay okay there's going to be er a couple minutes now whilst we go through er giving you all the numbers so jus-, just wait someone will come and er come and one of one of my-, myself or my colleagues will come and er tap you on the shoulder and just er just do what we what we say and listen listen to us okay remember you can't talk and you can't take your blindfold off and just be patient cause it's going to take a couple of minutes and then after after the couple of minutes er i'll i'll say you can start the task alright so just be patient and wait for me to say start and remember there's no talking nm5326: minus one nm5326: you're zero two nm5327: okay i'm just going to lead you off from the group this way yeah okay nm5326: okay you're one million one-hundred and three okay you may start the task nm5327: you are pretty much back in your team now okay nm5326: okay stop and you can take your blindfolds off su: don't don't move after you have taken them off su: hi su: hi su: the light su: in the wrong place nm5327: we have an extra team member don't don't don't go over there yet nm5327: so so what was your what was your number sf5335: two su: seven sm5340: three point one sf5333: oh no sf5332: three point two sf5333: three point two three point two we thought we were all three point two sf5334: zero sf5330: minus one nm5327: alright pretty good and what's your number sf5331: i'm with that team and i was number two nm5327: oh you were number two su: we were like this nm5326: so did you were you anywhere near the right order when you finished sf5329: i was zero so sf5337: i think we were in the right order sf5329: they're in order i think he ordered up them but we were kind of stuck nm5326: so right okay so a few of you were in the right order okay Charles Karen do you want to rejoin them sf5337: he was probably looking for er sm5341: Charles did you have your blindfold on you had a blindfold on su: you know when you were when you were following somebody you were following somebody with their feet in the grass it was him filming you sm5339: yeah oh right om5328: i thought i was filming a zombie movie there you were coming towards me like this sm5339: how did we do did we get anyone anywhere near nm5326: i think you got about four people in the right order sm5339: i found four people and then couldn't find anyone else sf5336: clapping three times a group of three and then two yeah so i was just like sf5331: yeah i just stood and waited and thought they know what they're doing they'll come and get me in a minute sm5340: cause i thought you'd put us in like different parts of the field and i was like hang on where is everyone sf5333: yeah i was just like and then i could hear you lot laughing and was like that's Vince that's Vince sm5340: i was just pissing myself laughing i just oh yeah i knew it was you i knew it was you pissing yourself it was like yeah go on then sf5333: i couldn't stop laughing i'm like i'm just standing here su: the signal should have been sf5333: and then i was like to you everyone was clapping so i was like i can f-, and i was just like er no i came to you first i'm just going to write my number down cause i don't i didn't know how to mine had got a point sf5334: i didn't really mind so much cause i was like i'm zero i'm the lowest i must be the lowest and you kept moving and i was like su: when he said three point two i went er oh sf5333: how annoying nm5327: what did you think when i showed you there was someone else next to you sm5340: you didn't nm5327: to your to your right cause we had an extra team person so you'd all sort of arranged yourselves but we had this extra spurious person on the end sf5330: it didn't feel quite right cause i was sure everyone else was like sf5333: cause i was we were all standing here then i was like hang on there's only like five of us sm5340: yeah su: so i just thought er nm5327: who was the last person to join su: yeah i didn't think sf5335: i know i didn't know where i was nm5327: they sort of they sort of didn't realise sm5340: i was completely lost and didn't know what was going on until i i got dragged down i was like oh what like just like sf5332: i think i was just standing there by myself for about like ten minutes then sf5331: oh right sf5337: see i was like sf5331: i don't know i just stayed there and waited sf5329: i followed the whistling sf5337: oh god sm5339: was anyone a minus number su: er su: no sm5339: i was sm5338: really sm5339: i got minus one sf5337: it's a good job you were like sorting then otherwise sf5329: and i got zero sf5336: and i was a half sf5329: you were a half sf5336: i was thinking to myself how am i going to get a half so i was thinking like to do nought point five to go nought one two three four five but i didn't know if that'd work sm5341: that would've worked because no numbers start with nought do they su: yeah sf5329: yeah nought five nm5326: right do you want do you guys want to do the review bit stay outside or go back into the place su: what do you reckon nm5326: go back in right okay nm5326: so we'll start the review off in the same way if you don't mind just i'll just give you two minutes to er it's the same set of headings i think aren't there on the second page there er just er open right yeah okay er so if you just do the same as last time nm5326: so i've just given you a bit of opportunity there to sort of have another experience and er just to start reflecting individually so alright with your notes if you just draw out some of that reflection into group discussion reflections so er anyone want to throw anything in on feelings this time su: horrible nm5326: it was horrible su: yeah sm5341: i thought it was quite funny actually sm5338: yeah i thought it was nm5326: it was very funny watching it i tell you sf5336: yes i did think about that i was like oh no people are watching me doing this just walking around randomly clapping nm5326: it was bit scary sf5329: yeah i wasn't expecting us to all get split up like that sm5341: i kind of was sm5339: that was the thing that went wrong sm5341: yeah i was kind of expecting him to give like decimal numbers and stuff but i thought no he won't be do that because sf5337: be that cruel nm5326: now what you didn't realise was of course i was just listening to everything you were suggesting and made sure i gave you something that didn't you hadn't thought of er ok some of you thought it was funny some of you thought it was scary any other feelings sm5339: i felt like an idiot i was the only person moving around and wandered off in completely the wrong direction nm5326: it was really quite at the very very end of the game it was everyone was stationary the whole field and you were just wandering around chasing this chap sf5334: right what reactions did anyone have sm5340: very hard su: very hard su: difficult sf5333: i thought it was going be actually when when we first read it i was thinking ah this'll be easy but i didn't realise when you could hear everyone else clapping i was like oh no sm5340: i didn't know we were getting taken away sf5332: yeah nor did i sm5340: cause i thought we would have stayed in those lines but obviously not sf5332: but that was the part of our plan i decided that planning was rubbish su: yeah sf5334: er so what else very hard sf5333: i didn't think we'd actually do it i just thought er su: no sf5332: it didn't work really nm5327: but your reaction at the end being you said being you said you didn't think you were going to do it but sf5330: i thought it was quite a good result it worked out alright in the end su: we got together in a line sf5333: yeah i was quite pleased we all found each other sm5340: how on earth we managed to like almost do it was like sf5334: i felt stupid sf5333: yeah yeah like you were the only person doing it like er cause you couldn't like call out and like reassure yourself that there was also other people also like feeling as stupid as you sf5334: yeah and you felt like everyone else had taken their blindfold and you were still standing there going sf5333: i know at the end cause cause you couldn't tell the time like i was standing there and i was thinking what if everyone's taken them off and i'm just like stood here on my own er sm5340: i felt well uncomfortable with that blindfold on though i just couldn't stand it i just oh nm5327: so uncomfortable yeah nm5326: how about feelings about how the team worked this specific exercise or the more general sf5329: i think we managed to set up a good plan yeah and we had a good code for the numbers cause we managed to deal with like the big numbers su: yeah sm5341: i think we all managed to find each other pretty well sm5338: yeah that was er that was sm5341: well we managed to find some of us sf5329: we did get Charles put four people in a a line so at least you know it was nm5326: yes yes you achieved at least a good quarter of your objectives sm5339: four out of eight nm5326: yeah yeah well that that's alright but that's really important because but it's it's often very difficult to achieve all the objectives but you can feel good about having got some of the way there sf5334: er what did we do well sf5335: i think we did plan it though we planned it but it just didn't go according to it and i think we did try sf5333: i think we did good improvisation cause we managed to put we must have something that could have worked cause everybody else was doing it so we were just like nm5327: you you you did do a plan now on the way in you were saying well that was a load of rubbish making a plan but did any part of your plan help you achieve what you achieved su: i don't sf5334: the clicking did cause i had zero and that was our signal for zero and i was like ah excellent nm5327: that's right that was quite good and i thought in your plan you realised that there could be a zero that's something that not many people realise you realised there could be high numbers okay su: and it wouldn't have to be one to six nm5327: so i think it was you you said that didn't you it doesn't have to be one to six and everybody started y-, challenging you so it seemed to me given that the er problem with your plan was that there was er er er unpredictable thing happened sf5333: we should have asked more we should have asked more questions or like the like thought of finding out more information like we should like we thought we could stand in a line which obviously we couldn't do and like so that was pointless and yeah sf5330: yeah i suppose we didn't think that they were have to negative numbers or su: no we didn't plan for like every occasion su: or points decimal points su: yeah nm5327: well we've gone from in the first task you said we didn't want a plan it's useless and now you made a plan and then you're saying well you're what we didn't do was plan for every eventuality but should we do that sf5333: it's a different sort of thing it's you know it's different sf5334: yeah more like logic thing that was more practical so it's better to get in there whereas this was kind of i don't know using all your senses a different type of and if you can't see like you really need a plan really because you know and if you can't talk either they're two of the main things that you'd use sf5333: yeah cause the other problem was we were constantly communicating but we actually like couldn't almost at all communicate sf5334: yeah nm5327: in an-, any situation in any task you do in your life it's er there's always something crops up that you don't expect but does that mean you should or shouldn't have a plan anyway su: no you should have one anyway nm5327: i thought your plan was fantastic completely different you for the first task you came back and made a plan you you planned for all sorts which a lot of the teams probably would've done but then the worst and this whole task is designed to give you unexpected things that couldn't possibly have formed part of your plan to say look cope with that sf5333: yeah like two of the same same number and stuff i thought three of us did but nm5326: er okay what about what you did what was what was best John sm5338: er i thought like the system was quite good apart from not being prepared for negative numbers and decimals and stuff like that but that was but i thought that er nm5326: so so how about generalising about how the how would how would you say say that i agree with you in as the way the team worked in a more general way how did you see that how did you come to the system sm5338: we all discussed it nm5326: did you all discuss it anyone sm5338: sm5341: well we sort of sf5329: we discussed it more than last time sm5341: i think we sort of split into two little groups talking about stuff and then we just joined together nm5326: so you've got quite a big group so that's interesting isn't it that you split up sm5341: sorry nm5326: er how did that happen how did you get back together was it spontaneous or did someone sf5329: it just seemed to happen sm5339: i just heard them talking and he had a go at it so but he doctored it su: yeah sm5341: did you see us talking sm5339: er clapping stamping your feet sf5336: yeah they came up with nm5326: so that's just so mmm turn your phone off mate er right so so Charles you sort of f-, felt that something good was going on in the other sort of subgroup so you kind of dragged dragged everyone back s-, so that that's interesting you didn't just carry with your own group so you thought well let's listen to someone else's findings th-, that's really good that's the thing with good things if they happen the team tend to make them make things work okay what was bad sorry what could we have done better sm5339: if we'd had a way of finding each other at the beginning sf5336: yeah but then that was that was a bit unexpected so sm5339: yes nm5326: okay so how did you cope with it sf5329: who who started whistling then sm5341: that was me sf5329: yeah that that helped us all group together i did think if that hadn't of happened i'd have nm5326: okay did you sf5336: except i didn't know i didn't know if it was another group sm5341: yeah but i thought sf5329: i just felt it was in the general direction nm5326: so with the whistle improvisation and some of you responded so cause it could have been a disaster because if what was really funny is three out of the four groups were clapping so and er er yeah so so there was was some good improvisation there try and do something different sm5341: i think who is it who got the nought point five yeah i think you thought of the right idea i think if you'd done that did you do it sf5336: well no not really because the way i stood behind the line and then i thought somebody was going to tap me on the shoulder and nobody came and is anybody there i thought she was already in the line sf5329: i thought i was in the line but i wasn't nm5326: what else okay so you you got something unexpected and you dealt with it the best you could really that's that's er which is which is great er anything else you felt could have been done better sf5333: i think that er we should have come up with a more original plan cause we i mean that i didn't realised we were all going to be mixed up but i think we should have thought like well everyone's going to clap and like that sf5335: to come up with new ideas sf5333: yeah cause when we were all obviously talking and clapping and it didn't really take into consideration that actually there was a lot of noise going on around us cause when you're you can hear like you get confusing so su: yeah more sf5333: yeah we could have had something a bit more different we didn't time keep again when we had our plan someone said like how long have we got and we couldn't time keep when we had our blindfolds on cause i was like oh it's alright i'll look at my watch and i was like oh no i won't be able to su: but we we wanted to but sf5333: so that was er nm5327: well i don't know did you time keep in the first ten minutes su: no that's the bit we forgot sf5335: but we intended to sorry su: we get so excited by it sf5333: yeah it was just all exciting again nm5327: is that how you all feel Vince are you feeling right excited about the tasks su: he loves it sm5340: no sf5333: thrilled in fact sm5340: er no well er kind of well i'm not like really dark about it actually i'll go along with it nm5327: so did you i mean did you did you think you did well in that task sm5340: but we did surprisingly better than i thought we did when i was like stranded on my own su: i think we did at the other one sf5333: and we were just laughing i thought no sm5340: yeah that's the thing oh i thought just forget it just wait here until the ten minutes go by but somehow i managed to well figure out what er nm5327: so were you o-, you you'd made your plan you was quite confident you were going to get it done and then all of a sudden sm5340: it just went pear-shaped nm5327: it went pear-shaped and you thought there's no way we're going to achieve it but then at the end of it sm5340: i got dragged about a bit and put in like almost the right position yeah nm5327: anybody else thoughts on this how their thought process went throughout the task sf5330: i think it definitely felt quite hopeless in the beginning sf5335: yeah i thought that i was going to have to like stand there for ten minutes as well i thought sf5330: you feel like yeah sf5333: just wait for someone to find you at some point and then i was thinking well no-one's going to find me cause you're probably all thinking the same thing going off and then i just and then i just started laughing and then i was like i can hear someone laughing oh it's just it was just weird nm5327: did anybody cheat su: yeah i could see nm5327: did anybody feel like cheating sf5333: yeah you could see just in front of you so like when i saw like Vince's trainers were right there i was like oh it is him kind of thing su: yeah sm5340: i was kind of going like that and just trying to see i don't know just see the tops or something it was just er yeah nm5326: what about the initial planning stage could it have been better er taking into account sf5329: take into take into account a bigger range of numbers nm5326: okay how could you seen how could you have ensured that happened or not ensured how could you have tried to make that happen it's difficult that sf5329: it is yeah nm5326: but er was there any-, anyone got any comments anyone feel that they weren't being listened to or that they think anyone think any any thoughts on how could could of how you could of got maybe thought of more numbers how many people said oh no they'll never do that sm5341: i did sf5337: i thought they might be high numbers but i didn't think of negatives or decimals at all i just didn't i didn't even think about sf5329: it didn't even occur to me nm5326: so maybe the they'll never do that maybe y-, you should say er maybe su: they might nm5326: maybe what what er what didn't happen was no-one said oh they probably will or what else could they do but er so i just wondered there were a few people saying they'll never they'll never do that which is what i would have said as well i it's not a criticism i'm just making observations er any so con-, conclusions here on what you might try and do better next time sf5329: be more open-minded about the possible problems you could have thrown at you su: yeah think about nm5326: okay so that's where if we look back at our ground rules it's it's around here again isn't it it's the er if you think you've got a whacky idea be prepared to speak up and er other people should keep an open-mind and er and er and er listen listen to others but er overall you felt good about it which is great any er any other comments have you got any comments about it sf5336: no nm5326: no you agree with the general sort of conclusion of the team anyone else sf5331: i think we did listen to each other a bit better this time and the initial plan would have been good in practice had we been more open-minded nm5326: yeah you were well on the way to a good plan and you ach-, you were well on the way to achieving your objectives yeah so you feel y-, you feel that you do you is that true that you feel that you worked better then in this exercise than in the first one which is interesting cause you didn't actually achieve your objectives before er su: yeah but i think we worked su: i think we worked nm5326: it was harder it was harder any any more comments nm5326: i wondered whether at the expense of that time er thinking about er because unfortunately the morning's s-, soon going to be over but towards the end of the morning i think it it would be nice if you could start pulling out some conclusions which you may well take forward with you into the rest of your lives er being ambitious here er but what i'd like you to do is er just maybe think for a few minutes about coming up with some kind of model some kind of plan for problem-solving in a team er now there's two ways you can do this now i'll i'll i'll ask you to decide given that we've got the two groups merged you could actually split and we could do this would that be a good idea cause then we could discuss both su: both would be nm5326: would that be a good idea or would you rather stay in your you've got used to being in a big group you want to stay in a big group sf5336: i think that it'd be easier to split up into two nm5326: yeah i think that might be quite nice cause er so so you're group ten right you four over there and you were group one over this side why don't we just spend five minutes then in separate groups of four and think about er just coming up with a bit of model a plan er strategy for the future which you can apply in the next exercise we're going to do but that you can also apply er in the in the more real world situation the future so i'll give you five minutes in your do you want to have a little table and just sit round it er f-, five minutes just to have a think er and then and then we can just er report on it again maybe if you just want to pull back up a bit so i'll give you five to ten minutes to think come up with a plan a strategy a vague or a very precise if you want strategy of how you how you might do better you know what i'm what i'm asking are you clear with what i'm asking you to do sf5331: i think so yeah sf5336: er sf5329: so we've got to think what's the first thing you do sf5331: well what's the task sf5329: yeah make su-, make sure everyone understands the task yeah sf5331: and then er maybe even er if it's a if it's a kind of complicated thing we could just write down the tasks number them sf5336: er or underline the key points like cause the first one was a really big like long bit we could underline that i suppose sf5331: and er and tasks need to be delegated efficiently everybody needs to be clear first of all of the task what they should be doing and what role they should be playing i think it's always what i i feel you should always have a a leader and follow what he somebody who sf5329: yeah yeah somebody who can make sure everybody has okay sf5336: right er and sf5329: i suppose it's more open discussion isn't it sf5336: yeah like putting ideas forward sf5331: brainstorming sf5329: yeah brainstorming yeah sf5329: and then then you have to cut it down and try and think what's the best ideas that have come out of that brainstorming sf5336: yeah and make sure everyone's involved sf5329: and make sure everyone agrees as well well to the best er as possible sf5336: er and make sure you try and think about every like eventuality sf5329: yeah sf5331: okay i suppose that's reiterating being more open-minded all round and just preparing for every eventuality but then we would never have known that for that task would well well i would never have thought we'd be given minus numbers sf5329: i didn't think we'd get split up no er okay and then i suppose make a definite plan and run through it a few times sf5336: yeah make make sure everybody knows what they're doing sf5329: make everyone su-, yeah what their role is make sure everyone's got like their own role sf5331: yeah do the task sf5329: do the task sf5336: very important part sf5329: should we start writing this down sf5336: yeah how are we going to fit it into this space sf5329: er i don't know some sort of flow diagram i suppose would be alright sf5336: er so what was the first bit sf5331: identify a task and er sf5336: yeah sf5329: yeah sf5331: er sf5336: delegate roles sf5331: yeah sf5329: do the task but er we've got to pick out the key issues sf5331: okay sf5329: brainstorming sf5336: and make sure everyone in the team is involved sf5331: and is aware of what their responsibility is sf5336: yeah sf5331: prepare for any eventuality depending er nevertheless you know you know howev-, however obscure it might be sf5336: yeah obscure sf5329: i suppose then you form your definite plan that should be sf5331: definite plan sf5329: make sure people understand it sf5331: yeah sf5329: and then sf5331: again do the sf5329: do the task nm5327: so in your in your plan which i think as i said i think that was a tremendous improvement over the first task did you end up doing what you said you'd do or how did the plan change sf5334: we said we'd time keep i mean and we didn't so nm5327: what about this i saw you sort of people were writing on people's hands was that part of your plan sf5333: no sm5340: no that was improvised su: that was improvisation sf5332: that was probably a better idea su: we came up with that er sf5333: i just started tapping Claire and then i was like er oh i was like trying to do it on your arm and then i was like it's not working so i was like okay i'll just spell it out and then everyone started doing it i don't nm5327: now has er has anybody started to think about er a model for problem solving a model for problem solving out of what we've done so far should there be a model that we follow in every task su: plan nm5327: okay plan sf5333: i think it's different cause it depends on the task cause problems that we had in the first task we solved in a different way to like how we solved them in this task cause we just laughed sm5340: yeah nm5327: what what sf5330: i think you need to get all your ideas together and sort of sf5332: knowing what you're doing and things nm5327: so you need to that's part of the plan isn't it don't you think so what do i what've i been giving you to put forward to start with sf5333: everyone needs to know what's going on cause if one of us tries to er sf5332: depends what the object at the end of the task is nm5327: that's good the object and then we provide you with information can't we so i'm giving you a sheet with all the information and then you're planning sm5341: there but these problems are not but they mean different things then you er decide on all the obstacles and how important they are and then no we put discuss didn't so was that was that after yeah sm5338: discuss what has to be done sm5341: and then i'm getting confused now er nm5326: er its coming great so far sm5341: er no put forward ideas of how to do what has to be done then and that sort of comes back down if there's any problems in that the idea is you have to go all the way back round nm5326: okay sm5341: and it goes back up to the top cause we might just not be able to think of anything and then hopefully we can get a solution at the bottom nm5326: okay great yes makes sense to me er that er with that er do we have a volunteer from group one sf5336: i'll do it nm5326: thanks Lucas sf5336: you'll have to tell me if i do anything wrong or leave something right the first thing is to identify the task and the key points from it and the second one we put delegate roles and possibly a leader nm5326: which is something that we we haven't discussed really yet hasn't really happened much sf5336: but Karen thought it was good to have a leader in this sorry and then we put er brainstorm ideas and er make sure everybody er and then for the next one we put er that ensure every member is aware of the task and the role that they're going to play in it and er and oh prepare for the unexpected nm5326: right difficult but sf5336: just try and er nm5326: you tell me what happens of course if you?ve done these two things er well if you've brainstormed and you've made sure that everyone's been involved usually that's as much as you can do to prepare for unexpected to try and listen to everyone's possible sf5336: er and then prep-, form a definite plan once you've done all of that just go through it again and then the last thing we put do the task and then review it at the end nm5326: yeah do and review great thanks very much sf5336: was there anything i missed out su: no nm5327: again i think the one thing you did much better this time was actually assimilate the information okay so you had things you had realised that the numbers were not necessarily going to be one to six and then Vince you said ah they're just going to be one to six aren't they sm5340: that's what i assumed so yeah nm5327: yeah so again that's interesting that's what we talked about in the first task about assuming things then but you you were accurate and that had come from assimilating the information sf5333: yeah i think er after we like tried it out i think we like realised there's problems like you know if like we all said if it's what do we do so like i suppose yeah nm5327: so and after the plan what did we do after you'd made your plan what's the next nm5327: you put your plan into action sf5333: do a trial run nm5327: do a trial run and then what did you do during the trial run have you just come out of that with a late night at the Union there so you you actually did a trial which i thought was good and then you discussed what had happened didn't you you you reviewed didn't you i think and that's a sort of an er iterative process isn't it so reviewed what you did and then put something else into action and then you review that and you should keep going round that circle until you er are confident that what you're going to do is achieve your object look i means there's no i mean we've there's there's no er one way of putting down words to go through the process there's many many different processes of doing tasks so we are we happy with that or not or there anything else we should add do we need to cross anything out and after the first task you wanted to get rid of that do you still want to get rid of it or should we leave it in Claire sf5330: er i think we should probably leave it in nm5327: you think we should leave it in sf5330: yeah su: yeah su: yeah nm5327: you don't have to sm5340: oh we won't then nm5327: okay so i i think a plan in any type of task is probably a good idea even if it only takes thirty seconds you've got something in your head right and er the information as well i think er well i think it goes without saying you know if you if you if you go and play any game and the game can be an essay or an exam or something you need to know the rules there'll be a certain percentage of the players in an exam or a task that don't bother looking at the rules and you're going to beat them if you know the rules because there will be people that hand their essay's in late there will be people who write too few words okay and those people as long as you fulfil the rules that just puts you up up the league table or it puts you closer to achieving that task i think er then in fact the object is good in fact think that's another thing you're doing very well actually making it real especially you two in the first task that you said oh it's just a bit of water didn't you then you said no no it's real like that's good cause it gets you quite focussed on on what's going on okay we're almost finished what we're supposed to do now we're ahead of time now unless anybody's got anything else they want to say about the two tasks we've done so far feeling like part of a team yeah su: yeah sf5332: yeah nm5327: one person there who's who's er who thinks they're an activist how many activists have we got Vince where do you fit let's just whiz through sm5340: i'm not an activist nm5327: reflector i can't remember the other one actually that'll do so where would you put yourself su: what's the last one theorist nm5327: theorist sorry sm5340: oh right er i'll be reflector nm5327: you're a reflector is Vince a reflector sm5340: well in fact i'm just someone who stands on the side and does nothing but nm5327: does he is being fair on himself su: no su: no he does a bit of everything sm5340: no i can't do anything let's be honest like er yeah not nm5327: no i don't think that's true does anybody think that's true su: no sm5340: come on don't be nice i don't know wherever nm5327: i don't know i'd say what does anybody think he is is he an activist sm5340: okay well i haven't done and reflector i haven't reflected on anything and i haven't come up with any theories so so nothing sf5333: you have reflected cause you're reflecting by saying you didn't do anything sm5340: in that case i suppose i'll be a reflector then nm5327: well if that's what you think you are you happy with that are you going to try and change that in the third task if you feel like you're not contributing other people think you're contributing but you obviously sm5340: well in that case i'll do exactly the same as i've been doing then nm5327: okay Natalie what do you think you're contributing then sf5332: don't know sf5333: you always come up with good ideas sf5332: yeah yeah yeah sf5333: contributing ideas nm5327: okay coming up with ideas is that who you are in real life sf5332: er yeah i suppose so yeah i like to keep having an input and try and like you know come up with something even if it's not much just helping the team out sf5333: i don't think about anything i just do it so go go go nm5327: in there and see what goes on sf5335: i don't know nm5327: i mean you can be more than one sf5335: i really don't know sf5333: i think a reflector and a theorist cause you're coming up with things but she's also looking at other people's things and sort of saying like don't know yeah no she kind of takes her time to think about it before she actually says anything not like well i was just saying whatever comes into my head but like to me she seems to think about it a bit more nm5327: that's good Claire what about yourself sf5330: er i think i'm probably a reflector [laugh] because nm5327: you like to work out what's going on sf5330: yeah i think so i don't know i mean i've got ideas as well but not as many as some people so nm5327: and Lou what about yourself sf5334: er probably a reflector er nm5327: so we've got just one activist in this group that just tackled that first task like let's get the equipment out and and see what it does no it's no it's er the thing that i think in any team if if we had six people that just wanted to get stuck in then your team wou-, can fall apart so you you oft-, often need different types of people in the team to make it succeed does anybody feel like they're not being allowed to contribute to the team how they want to no sm5340: we could do with another bloke not to be rude but yeah sf5333: a bit of female dominance going on sm5340: yeah that's the thing yeah you're just all doing your like girly chat and shit nm5327: we have one team member feeling left out here so anybody else and that's an important part of the team as well to kind of even if it's small things that people are feeling a bit excluded about that that to recognise that and try and bring them in cause i think you did that in the first task sm5340: i don't feel excluded nm5327: the first task so it's not you're not going to be blindfolded in another one alright so what you want to try and do now is try and put the learning points that you've done that we've hopefully done back to planning and time-keeping and things and i think if you do that it'll put stand you in good stead and then we can come out of the last task in an elated fashion rather than a deflated one okay nm5326: er brainstorm your ideas i think that's probably er deciding thinking about every-, as much as you can but in a slightly different way but thinking everything that could go wrong er er ensuring every every member is involved is again something you haven't er er put on explicitly here so those kind of ideas have come out of of of er of group one's er which we haven't talked about much er preparing for the unexpected i just talked about that it's it's kind of hard to do but er er then formulating a plan so er we we've got here er and i think what you what er you guys have brought out very strongly into this the review er which is also here down on the last thing er on group one's but the the idea of the group trying to review and go and decide where it's got to go back to er if you if things haven't gone quite quite to plan i think you've brought that out very out very strongly with these curly arrows going back round that that's really good so er i'm very impressed with both of those er so so well done on that and in a short time has anyone got any er comments they