nm0919: well good morning everybody er just to start off [0.7] just like to remind you of the misprint [1.5] we had in the er [0.2] on the notes on bottom of page eight [0.6] equation four-seven [1.2] when we're doing the fit to the exponential-Y-A exponential-K-X [0.8] what we do is we transform it by taking natural logs of each side [0.6] which is log-Y is log-A [1.0] and i put l-, Ls so that L-Ns of E to remind ourselves it's logs to the base E [1.7] log-A plus K-X i think there was a log in there by mistake [0.7] and therefore if we plot er of the individual data points Y-I and X-I those [0.7] pairs if we plot the log of Y-I against X-I [0.6] then if this is a reasonable [0.7] law [0.5] we would expect it to be something like a straight line the gradient would be K [0. 4] and the intercept would give us an idea of [0.2] er [0.2] log-A [0.8] in which case we can take the l-, [0.5] antilog and get [0.2] A [0.9] er [0.6] just [0.9] realize [0.2] what might have been the confusion last year if we had a power law which could also be a [0.3] quite a reasonable behaviour [0.4] for some transducer [0.4] say Y equals A-X-to-the-K now instead of E-to-the- [0.3] X [0.8] in this case [0.4] obviously when we take logs we get log-Y [0.4] is log-A and this time it is of course plus K-log-X [0.5] and in this case one er would indeed plot log-Y [0.2] against log- [0.5] X-I [1.7] that should be X-I i suppose for each individual data point [0.5] K would be now the gradient [0.3] which exponent the the power law here [0.4] and log-A [0. 5] the intercept so hopefully [0.5] if you could correct your [0.4] written copy there [0.3] from that misprint [1.7] er [0.2] next week is er [0.5] week four [1.1] or is it week five [0.2] ss: week five nm0919: week five yes it's week four this week isn't it yes [0.3] next week is week five thank you [0.7] and er [1.8] this is week four [0.8] so there's no lecture next Thursday [0.6] i'm actually [0.6] not in Canada next Thursday i actually arrive [0.4] back from Canada at about [0.2] seven-thirty A-M [1.0] so er [0.3] i m-, thought i might not be tremendously alert [0.3] so we won't have a lecture next Thursday [0.5] but what will occur next week since the lab is going to start in week six [0.3] will be for the three groups [0.2] who you know you are [0.5] you will have your lab briefing [1.1] er next week before the week in week five before the labs start proper week six seven eight nine ten okay five weeks [0.4] Tuesday ten A-M Thursday ten A-M [0.5] and Friday for the easy people i'm not quite sure [0.9] presume you know what time it is yeah [1.2] right [0.4] and then so next week i will be er recovering from my jet lag in the morning [0.5] and we'll then have some lectures on [0.3] twenty-second of Feb [0.6] and the first of March okay [1.6] right let me now we'll go through we've got quite a few of these problems to go through so let's go through those [0.2] er [0.4] take a c-, [0.9] couple of minutes now to hand these out i'm afraid lo-, namex [0.8] sorry tho-, those of you who are wondering what's going on er [0.6] if you want some [0.2] cut on the fee you'll have to see my agent okay [0.7] for this er [0.2] sorry the last few minutes hasn't been terribly interesting television has it [0.5] namex namex anybody [0. 5] namex [0.4] no okay [0.8] let me also while we're doing that hand out this attendance sheet [1.4] okay so let's just quickly have a look at these er particular aspects and er [0.5] if you remember the first part of this question [0.6] is to do with er [1.5] if i can find the er [0.2] particular sheet i'm looking for [0.9] is to do with er [0.2] yes er [1.6] we have er [3.7] twenty-five measurements we have T-bar [1.3] er plus-or-minus sigma [0.8] and we're told that that is five-point-five [0.2] degrees centigrade [0.6] and the standard deviation [1.8] is equal to one degree centigrade [0.4] so that means that our distribution looks something like this [0.4] this is five degrees [0.5] and sixty-eight per cent [0.5] of our values are within one degree [0.4] and so the standard error [1.9] which is how accurately we can work out this [0.2] bit at the top there [0.5] is obviously equal to sigma [0.7] which is the standard deviation divided by root- N [0.4] and we have N is twenty-five [0.6] 'cause there are actually twenty- five readings in this frequency diagram against the temperature [1.5] that's T- bar [1.3] and so it's obviously not a smooth curve it's a bit of a histogram [0. 3] and therefore that is er root of twenty-five is five [0.4] so the standard [0.2] deviation standard error i should say [0.3] is plus-or-minus er [0.3] fi-, er [0.2] one [0.4] over five- [0.4] point-two degrees centigrade [0.5] so we could say that the value of T [0.7] is [0.2] is equal to five [0.4] plus-or-minus nought-point-two degrees centigrade with N equals twenty-five [1.8] and we would expect sixty-eight per cent [0.2] with to be within one standard [0.3] deviation of these twenty-five values [0.4] and what are the assumptions we've made [0.3] well one or two people sort of said things like oh well [0.4] sort of [1.4] things are pretty accurate and people have been rather careful that's not the the as-, [0.2] i mean if you were not accurate and you were not careful [0.4] then this sord-, it'd just be a broader wouldn't it you'd have a bigger standard deviation [0.4] so the assumptions that you've made [0.3] are two basically [0.3] one is that there are no systematic errors [0.6] it's all random [3.5] in other words [0.5] it's not as if the the mean is up here and they're all shifted there's no systematic errors [1.2] and th-, that the errors are normally distributed [1.9] in other words they obey this Gaussian curve those are the two [1.0] er normal distribution of errors [0.5] okay [0.7] those are the two assumptions [0.4] and all this business about that everyone's been a bit accurate and you haven't been too careful [0.5] that's all in here if you weren't very accurate and there was m-, [0.5] more spread that would just come through on the standard deviation wouldn't it [0.5] so let's just go through this a little bit i've been doing a little bit of re-, research as i indicated i would over the weekend [0.8] so here we have our situation [1.9] frequency of [1.1] time w-, of of er numbers of er values of X [0.5] this is our mean [0.8] and they're spread in this bell-shape curve sixty-eight per cent of them [0.4] should be in within sigma what we call the standard deviation [0. 5] and of course as we get more and more and this gets smoother and smoother [0. 4] we can tell where the peak is better and better [0.5] that's my [0.3] standard error in the estimate S-M and that's sigma [0.4] divided by root-N [0. 9] so the standard deviation doesn't [0.4] matter really how many [0.2] readings you have [1.1] er but as you get more and more you should be s-, define the peak better and better so anyway i've done then a little bit of research here 'cause as i was indicating [1.4] last week [1.1] er [1.3] there's a slight problem in my opinion anyway in the er nomenclature here when you look at these two terms they're not self-explanatory [0.6] and i promised you i'd do a bit of research on this so i've asked one or two i was at an international meeting [1.0] er on m-, in London on Monday so i asked the Italian people what the Italian terms were to see if they were [0.5] any more self-explanatory and this was absolutely hopeless [0.8] because [0.5] the Italian for standard deviation is deviazione standard [0.4] and the Italian for standard error is errore standard so those are not very much better [0.7] however the French term is much better [1.5] the French term for mean is moyenne [0.6] and for standard deviation is écart type [0.4] so écart actually means a sort of spreading out typical so it's a typical spreading out [0.8] so that's quite a [0.8] i'm sure you'll agree that's a very logical term [0.5] and nobody as yet i've raised this with several people has been able to tell me [0.3] got a few e-mails on the go [0.7] what the word for standard error is and have you have you managed to [0.2] find this out sm0920: no i haven't [0.7] nm0919: i asked a few people [0.2] when i was [0.2] at a [0.4] dinner in Paris and they [0.2] gave me some funny looks [0.3] when i raised it and started talking about something else [1.6] right [0.3] what about the German term [1.0] now the German for average is quite good i think it's durchschnitt [1.2] durch [0.3] means er [0.2] through er cut through [0.7] right [0.6] so it's a cut through the middle [1.1] and then the next term is s-, [0.2] standard [0.2] abweichnung [0.9] okay [0.8] which means again deviation or divergence i'm afraid doesn't it and then i asked these people that at were [0.2] big statisticians and all they could come up with for standard error was [0.4] normalisiert abweichnung well i don't think that's right actually [0.6] 'cause i think the normalisiert abweichnung is sometimes you express a standard [0.4] a fractional standard devation [0.5] in other words what's the fraction of sigma- [0.4] over-X you know if X was ten centimetres [0.5] and this is standard deviation is one you could say the fractional standard deviation [0.9] i-, is is ten per cent [0.4] which i think would be this normalisiert one [1.1] and nobody could tell me this one either so obviously er [0.2] it's an international problem [0.7] what to call this thing [1.9] right let's go on to the er next one [0.7] okay [0.9] and in the next one number two here [2.4] we have that the area [1.5] equals pi-R-squa one person actually managed to get that wrong [0.5] pi-R-squared [1.1] and R D or equals to [0.4] pi-D-squared over four if you like and D [0.5] apparently is equal to twenty centimetres [0.7] plus-or-minus point-one centimetre [2.2] er [1.6] right [0.9] that's what it says here which is one part [0.3] one in two-hundred [2.3] that error [4.8] right so er [0.8] well we know what the error is it's er [1.5] a hundred-pi [0.5] that's twenty metres squared [0.4] sorry we know what the area itself is [2.4] which is three-hundred-and-fourteen [0.3] s-, square centimetres so the question now is what's the er error in that [2.0] and at this stage er we realize here we've got a formula of the form Z [0.6] it's a product isn't it here [1.1] in that er er my R is [0.2] squared [0.2] so the problem is if i've got an error in R and i square it what happens to the error in R-squared [1.2] and er [0.2] basically [1.1] well [0.5] what i'm going to do now actually [0.5] i presented these formula before [0.5] er for combination of errors when you had a product or a square or a power as you've got here [0.8] just er as er [2.0] out of the hat so to speak [0.4] so let's actually just do [0.3] these things properly [0. 4] which just involves a little bit of calculus [0.5] and is also what is required [0.7] for question three [0.7] of the long problems that i'll hand out in a few minutes okay [0.4] so [1.9] right let's just [0.6] go through these errors a little bit more formally [1.4] and those [0.5] formula that are just [0.2] quoted on the sheet let's just see where they come from [0.7] and let's just have the formula Z [0.3] i'm going to derive [0.4] from A a constant time some [0.9] thing i measure called X [0.5] and something i measure called Y which could also be married by B [0.7] and i'm interested in let's suppose there's an [0.5] so what's i-, the first thing is what's the effect [1.2] on Z [0.6] of an error [1.3] D-X [0.7] okay [0.3] well i can work that out by differentiating if i just differentiate this with respect to X and i get D-Z D-partial [0.5] D-X [0.5] which means that means differentiate keeping [1.6] keep Y constant when you do this [0.9] okay [0.4] because i'm only interested in the effect of the error on X [0.5] so this is a constant [0. 4] and that is of course equal to er A [1.3] and similarly [1.5] the effect [1. 3] well i could do the same thing here [0.5] on Z [0.7] of an error [1.6] D-Y [0.4] if X is constant [0.9] right [0.6] and that of course is D-Z [0.5] D-Y is lo and behold equal to B [0.5] right [2.6] in other words i've got my error [0. 3] one [0.6] shall we call it D-Z here [0.5] is equal to A-D-X [0.6] and the error two [1.3] D-Z [0.5] is equal to B-D-Y [0.7] okay now we make the er assumption [1.0] that er supposing er [0.3] if it's true [0.2] that the errors in X and Y are independent [0.8] then if one is high the other can be low et cetera et cetera [0.4] then these two [0.3] error terms don't add up algebraically [0.4] they add up as the sums of the squares don't they [0.2] okay [1.9] so er [1.1] whoops that's not too good [0.8] the er [0.9] so we're now going to have these two error terms [3. 8] that's not much better either [1.7] error one and error two [3.3] ah [1.8] we'll go back to this one i think for the moment [1.8] error [0.6] one [0.2] and error two [0.9] are independent [4.9] therefore total-error-squared [2.3] equals error-one-squared [2.3] plus error-two-squa you can see what's coming here can't you [1.0] two-squared and therefore [0.8] D-Z- [0.8] squared [0.3] equals A- [1.8] D-X-squared [0.8] plus B- [0.8] D-Y-squared okay [2.6] that's the first formula [0.7] right [0.9] now we can now go on to the second one [0. 3] which i'll do under here [2.8] and this is a slightly more er complicated one [0.2] er let's write up here [0.6] Z [0.6] equals er A [0.4] which A is a constant [0.7] X- [0.2] to-the-alpha [0.2] Y- [0.5] to-the-beta [1.1] so this is the general term now where we have a product [0.4] of two terms there could be an X-variable and a Y-variable [0.9] raised perhaps to some term alpha and beta [0.5] or there could be just one of those which is the situation we've got there isn't it right [0.4] where alpha is two [0.8] and now we're going to do exactly the same thing [0.6] right [1.3] we're going to do D-Z D-X we're going to find the error due to the error [0.2] error in Z due to X [0.5] and error in X [1.3] and the error due to an error in Y okay [0.5] so we do the partials again here D-Z [1.3] how does e-, Z change if there's a change in X [0.2] keeping Y constant [0.6] well that's A and then X-to-the-alpha goes as al-, X- [0.6] alpha-minus-one [2.2] Y- [0.9] B [0.9] and let's write that as [0.2] A- [0.2] alpha-X [0.2] over X i haven't done very much there Y- [0.5] to-the-B [1.0] except i now realize i'm back where i started with X-A [0.2] X-S [0.4] this thing here [1.5] X [0.2] whoops X-to-the- alpha [0.9] Y-to-the-beta [0.4] so what i've got there therefore [0.3] is alpha- [0.2] Z [0.7] over [0.2] X [0.5] okay [0.7] in other words D-Z-one [1.5] error one [1.0] is equal to er [0.5] alpha-Z- [2.3] D-X [0.3] over X [0.6] there's my fractional error coming in can you see [0.5] that's why it's a fractional error in this term [0.4] when these two are multiplied okay [0.8] and i've actually er so that's my error there straight away [0.3] and in fact this is the one i want [0.2] over here isn't it i could do this one now [0.4] straight away [1.9] if there's only an error in X term here [0.2] then i've got that the error D [0.3] er error in A the fractional error in A [0.6] is equal to twice [0.4] the fractional error in D shall we say or er [0.9] B-B over D [0.2] okay [2.3] so [0.4] D-D the error [0.3] in D [1.9] is one part in two-hundred [0.8] so the error in A is worse [1.2] it's twice as bad 'cause we've squared it okay [0.3] so it's one in one-hundred [0.9] so i can say my area [1.1] is equal to three-hundred-and- fourteen [0.2] square centimetres [0.4] plus-or-minus three-point- [0.6] one [0. 2] square [0.6] centimetres [1.8] okay [4.4] er [1.2] the point about it as you'll see when you get to question three on the other sheet [0.7] is that i gave you some special formulae these two here [0.2] we haven't quite finished this one yet [0.8] but in question three on the second sheet we have a slightly different arrangement don't we [0.5] for the er [0.5] platinum resistance thermometer [0.7] so if you understand what we're doing here no let's so that's [0.3] this is the [0.2] now let's next one oh good this one works [0.4] D-Z D-Y we'll do now [0.9] what's the error change in Z [0.4] for a change in Y [0.5] okay [0. 6] and that is er A-X-to-the-alpha 'cause that's constant for the moment [0.4] beta- [0.3] Y-to-the-beta-minus-one [1.3] okay [1.1] er if i can [0.7] i can now write this as A-X-to-the-alpha-Y er [0.8] we'll have a beta out here [0.5] Y-to-the-beta [0.5] over Y and i realize this thing here is what i started with Z [0.5] so the [0.4] D-Z error two if you like [0.6] the second error term due to a change in Y [0.6] 'cause X and Y can have errors on [0.4] is now beta [1. 4] er [3.6] and i'll i'll bring the Y over here Z [0.2] D-Y [0.3] over Y 'cause there's a Y under there 'cause i've had to put a Y back in because i lost a Y when i differentiated the beta-minus-one you see that's where the Y underneath comes from [1.9] okay so now [0.2] if these are independent [3.9] in other words [0.5] if [2.0] usual thing if Y goes high with an error or [0.3] high there's no reason for X to have a high error [0.3] they're totally independent [1.7] then i can say that the total error in Z-squared [5.3] is those squared is alpha- [0.2] Z [1.0] D-X over X [0.8] all squared plus [0.5] beta- [0.2] Z [0.6] D-Y over Y [0.4] all squared [0.6] and therefore i could write this bring i'll take the Zs out here [0.3] and therefore D-Z over Z [1.2] all squared is equal to alpha- [0.4] D-X over X all squared that's the [0.2] term we were left with there when there was only X [0.6] and of course if two things squared are equal to each other we can [1.7] then the things themselves are equal if A-squared equals B-squared A equals B plus [0.5] we've got the other one [0.3] beta [0.2] if that's the power [0.5] D-Y over Y [0.6] all squared [1.6] and the we notice here [1.2] as we said before when we get these product terms involved or power law [0.4] it's the fractional error that's important can you see it here [0.5] D-Z over Z the fraction D-X over X D-Y over Y [10.7] okay so er rather than producing them out of the hat as before [1.0] it's little bit of calculus a nice little exercise in calculus okay [1.0] just [0.7] differentiating [1.3] X-to-the-N is N-X minus X-to-the [0.2] N-X-to-the-N-minus-one isn't it [3.7] right [4.2] everybody happy everybody read that yeah [0.3] okay [1.0] no [1.7] yes no [10.1] sorry [7. 1] shall we do number three [6.3] sf0921: excuse me [0.2] nm0919: yes [0.2] sf0921: how did you get [0.2] error in A as one in one-thousand [1.7] nm0919: sorry sf0921: sf0922: i got the answer as twenty-two [1.2] sf0921: i got the error in B as one in two-hundred [0.5] nm0919: okay i-, what sf0921: and error in A is one in one-thousand nm0919: oh sorry it was one in a hundred then sorry that's okay A equals pi-R- squared [0.8] twice over four [1.3] D-squared [0.6] so D-A [0.7] over A equals twice [0.2] D-D [0.6] over D [0.2] okay [2.4] this one here was one in [0.6] two-hundred [0.8] so this is one [0.5] in one-hundred [0.7] so A [0.5] equals three-hundred-and-fourteen plus-or-minus three [0.4] did i write one in a thousand there [0.7] sf0923: yeah [0.2] nm0919: okay so once i've done this right [9.0] this is half a per cent [1.5] and twice it is [0.2] one per cent [4.0] so the other [0.2] this is the inverse isn't it of the one we did [0.4] last week [0.6] where we had the t-, [0.2] the the [0.2] period of a pendulum [0.4] was proportional to L to the h-, the length to the half [0. 7] in which case the period to the fractional error in the period was [0.3] half [0.2] the error in the length [0.6] here since it's length's [0.9] squared it's twice [1.0] just goes as the power law doesn't it [5.4] well i think most people who got there got number three correct [1.4] got that far [0.6] it's V [0.7] equals K-U-minus-C [0.5] and K here this is a velocity [0.7] in metres per second [2.2] er K is er [0.8] three-point-two volts per metre per second [0. 6] so no volts [0.2] sorry that's a voltage in volts [1.3] and C [0.4] was equal to six-point-four volts [3.4] and if you think about that [0.6] you ou-, you've got a [1.4] that means there's a a characteristic looking something like this [0.5] if this is V [2.2] then er it's a straight line [0.4] er if we put er [1.1] er [5.9] so we can substitute our value in here we're also given so that er [0.3] yeah this er if if U is equal this is U [0.3] U equals to nought that's minus-six-point-four [0.7] down there comes up here [0.4] and we're interested in a point we're given the point U equals what is it [0.6] U e-, U-I equals er [0.3] ten metres per second [0.6] and we measure a voltage I equal to twenty-six volts [0.8] and if you substitute that point in there [1. 1] what value do you get [0.2] in the formula [1.7] and then whereabouts is my actual data point does it lie on that line or not [0.4] and that's the residual i'm interested in [0.4] so if i substitute [3.1] U equals ten [0.2] metres per second i get V [0.7] that's the one on the line [0.4] is equal to thirty-two [0. 6] minus six-point-four [0.4] is twenty-five-point-six volts [1.0] so that's the er formula [2.9] which is this point here [0.8] twenty-five-point-six [0.4] and the actual data point is up here [1.1] at twenty-six volts so the residual [0.8] which is how far my data point is off the line [0.4] is obviously equal to [3.4] equals data point [1.3] minus er [1.1] er [1.0] fit [1.4] and that's obviously equal to twenty-six minus twenty-five-point-six equals nought-point- four volts [0.5] i think everybody actually got that one right apart from the odd person who got an arithmetic er [0.6] substitution er [0.5] in error [1.9] right so next time let's go now we've got quite a few of these to go through this time [1.0] some more problem sheets here these are the longer ones er [6.3] well i think er [0.4] everybody who did question one [0.8] which is really er [2.4] er i don't know if i really need to go through this in all its gory detail because i think most people did get this one [0.2] correct [10.7] i think everybody who tackled this clearly could er [0.5] work out we had these [0.6] ten val-, [1.5] what did i do with my er [0.2] good one [2.0] we had our ten values of er [0.2] T [4.8] and people most people got that T-bar was equal to ten-point-two-four [1.2] degrees centigrade [0.9] and that they got the standard deviation was equal to what did i get er [0.8] plus- [0.3] nought-point-one-five degrees centigrade [1. 1] okay [1.0] one or two people made an error but i think i've identified that when they got the er [0.2] arithmetic wrong [2.0] and then er the stan-, the er standard then we also found that seven [0.5] out of ten [1.6] were within [1.8] sigma of [0.3] T-bar [1.8] and that seems it's fairly reasonable and were supposed to mention there [0.5] that when we had this distribution [0.5] we would normally expect if you had ten [1.4] readings here you'd expect sixty-eight per cent you'd expect seven within that so six you know [0.3] seven [0.3] you'd expect sixty-eight per cent so seventy is pretty good [2.2] and then the next thing you had was that er the standard error [0.9] was equal to nought-point- one-five over root- [0.2] ten [0.7] which is something like nought- [0.3] point- o-five degrees centigrade [0.6] so you could then say that your final error [0. 4] if you like [0.4] is ten-point-two-four [2.8] plus-or-minus nought-point- nought-five [0.3] that's the standard error [1.4] that's how accurately you think you've got [0.5] that mean [1.1] even though quite a lot most of the [0. 5] points are [0.2] further away from that [0.6] what is the assumption you've been making here [5.1] and again the assumption er is not that people are being careful with the thermometer et cetera et cetera hopefully that's all in [0.5] these standard errors and standard deviations [0.3] the sys-, [0.3] the er assumetion is that it's a normal distribution [4.8] and that there's no systematic error [3.8] if i was using the thermometer that was one degree out because there was a break in the er mercury [0.5] then of course this would all be invalid [0.4] so these are the two [0.9] that they're distributed [0.6] according to this bell-shape curve they're random [0.5] like the property of noise [0.7] and then the last question was if [0.4] if you have [0.4] you have an eleventh reading T is eleven-point- [0.6] two degrees [0.6] what do you do with it [1.6] and some people sort of wrote and said whoa [0.4] looks a bit far out [1.6] you know this looks a bit dodgy that one it's a bit far from there [0. 5] i'd probably throw it away that's not correct [0.5] the correct version here is to say [0.7] what is the difference of that from that and the answer it's one degree centigrade [0.7] different [1.1] the standard deviation is point-one- five so this is six standard deviations outside there [0.7] so this is one standard deviation six is right out here [0.7] we know there's a ninety-nine- point-nine-and-a-half per cent chance of everything being within three standard deviations [0.6] so you must say if this is six standard deviations away from the mean [0.4] therefore i will reject it [0.5] that's correct just to see ooh it looks a bit dodgy it's a bit [0.3] different from all the others [0.2] is not correct [1.3] the whole point is we can do this analytically [0.4] okay [2.8] that's what we're learning hopefully here [1.8] right now we get to the rather amusing little bit number [0.2] two [0.3] number one [1.6] most people [0.4] didn't have too much bother with that one okay [4. 2] and i'm afraid no it wouldn't [0.7] i suppose the [0.3] advantage of number [0.2] two [0.8] is if you struggled over it and got it wrong [1.4] and i [0.3] and i explain or i've explained [0.7] on the sheet where you got it wrong [0.8] y-, you'll certainly get the message as to what the difficulty is so basically [1.4] we have [0.6] R equals [0.2] A- [1.0] exponential- [0.2] B- [0.2] T [1.3] and what we have in this particular situation is the resistance [0.6] of a [0. 5] thermistor yes [0.2] sm0924: would it be over T too [1.0] nm0919: it is indeed yes thank you [3.2] right [3.7] okay so [0.3] we're we're trying to measure temperature and we've got something in resistance and it's not linear [0.7] okay [1.2] in fact er if we plot R [0.9] against T [0.4] it looks something like er [0.4] this [0.9] if it was [0.3] B-T it would look something like [0.4] that [0.4] so thanks very much for pointing out i've got it i've written i copied it down wrong [2.0] right so the question is [0.2] what is the sensitivity of the device [3.2] what do we mean by sensitivity [0.7] we mean what's the change in resistance [5.8] for a change in temperature [3.0] in other words it's going to be in ohms per K shall we say it's in [0.2] K is absolute temperature there T big-T is the absolute temperature right [1.2] now everybody realizes that's what's we mean [0.9] but the problem is that most people [2.7] have er remember [0.9] a little example we did before where we had V against T [0.5] and V was equal to B-T [0.4] and that was a straight line through the origin [0.6] so they then said the sensitivity [2.8] is actually er the change in voltage here [0.4] over the change in temperature [1.1] and they then said that's V-over-T well in fact what you're interested in here clearly for a given temperature [0.7] is the change in temperature [1.1] resulting in a change in voltage which is the gradient [2.0] okay [0.7] and so you're interested in that gradient a little change in V over a little change in T [0.4] and it so happens that this is a straight line through the origin [0.4] so [0.3] er if you actually also [0.3] work out er [0.4] V- [0.4] -over-T [0.3] you will also [0.2] get the right answer [0.2] for the gradient [2.7] so something like er half the class here [0. 4] said the sensitivity is gr-, equal equal to R- [0.4] over-T [0.5] and as we take a point here [0.8] what we're actually interested in [0.3] is a change delta-T here [1.5] what does that give [0.2] as a change delta-R [0.2] that's what we really want isn't it [0.5] is D-R [0.2] D-T [1.6] okay [0.5] now if it's linear that's constant and it's the straight line through the origin [0.6] but if you then suddenly decide oh well let's say that's R-over-T [0.8] what you're actually calculating the sensitivity i think everybody can see is this local gradient [0.7] what most if you calculate R-over-T you're actually calculating that gradient [5.0] which is [0.5] not the same thing [1.2] so if you look back at the notes when we talked about that [0.6] i think we did actually say that if it's a non-linear relationship [1.7] then it's n-, [0.7] then this gradient you have to work out the gradient and the gradient as you can see here [0.6] is changing that's because it's non-linear isn't it [1.5] so as we [0.4] we got different gradients here [0.4] and different gradients there [2.0] right so basically [2.3] hopefully those who ploughed through this using the wrong values [0.5] when you see that diagram you can see what you've done wrong okay [5.7] right so what we actually have to do now [1.0] is to differentiate this thing here [0.9] in other words we have to work out D-R D-T [2.2] okay and we realize that this is er [0.6] we have to use the chain rule here [1.5] if it was D-D-X of exponential-X [0.2] we get exponential-X [1.1] okay but it's exponential-B-over-T so we first of all differentiate the exponential and get what we started with [0.7] which is A- [0. 5] exponential- [0.6] B-over-T [0.2] and then we have to differentiate what's in the exponential okay [0.8] and so the D-D-T [0.4] of B-over-T [4.3] is equal to minus-B over T-squared [1.4] so this is minus-B [0.3] over T-squared and i could if i wanted write that back as minus-B over T-squared and this is [0.5] back what i started with times R [0.5] probably makes [0.5] some people left it like that but this [0.6] is a bit easier to see [1.8] this looks correct doesn't it because the gradient is in fact negative okay [0.3] when D er [0.2] when D-T goes up [0.2] okay [0.9] and we increase er [1.3] er [0.4] T when we decrease R [1.2] that is negative [3.4] right [0.2] hopefully people [0.2] if you can't follow the maths there you'd better have a word with your maths people [0.3] integrating differentiating a function of a function [1.7] right so at this stage now er [0.5] we're asked what is the sensitivity [0.5] so we have to work out [0.2] D-R D-T at two temperatures [4.9] so D-R [0.8] D-T the first one we need to do is at er [2.4] two-hundred-and-seventy-three [0.6] and then we also need D-R [0.5] D-T [0.6] at er three-hundred-and-seventy-three okay so we're interested in the gradient here at two-seven-three [1.7] and the one down here which we think is probably a bit less at three-seven-three [1.7] what i need to do also is to work out what the value of R is and if i substitute in there [0. 9] er er the values i get two-thousand [0.5] twenty-three-thousand- [0.4] and- eighty-two ohms [1.0] is the value here [1.3] right [0.4] at two-s er whereas at R th-, just putting A and B in with the values [0.2] on the sheet [0.8] leave you to do that [0.6] R three-seven-three [0.4] is quite a lot less it's only four-hundred-and-fifty-four ohms okay [2.7] so we could put those in in [0. 8] green i suppose here [0.5] this one down here is actually four-hundred-and- [0.8] fifty-four [0.6] this one up here [0.7] is twenty-three-thousand [1.6] so it's a big change isn't it [1.2] and the question is now [0.7] so by changing a hundred degrees i seem to have changed the resistance by about [0.3] twenty- three-thousand ohms [0.6] so it looks as if i'm going to get some rather large changes in er [1.1] for a degree temperature change i'm going to get a lot of ohms change so it looks potentially as if i've got rather a good er sensitivity [1.8] so this is equal to er [0.3] B [0.7] is equal to er [0.4] what is B equal to four-thousand [2.0] and T is equal to in this one two-seven-three [0.5] so the one the value here [0.4] is equal to er [0.6] let's do this er [0.2] this one here R which is two-three [0.8] this is two-seventy-three so that's [0.2] the value of the resistance twenty-three-thousand-and-eighty-two [0.6] then it's B four-thousand [0.9] over two-seven-three [0.2] two-seven-three [0.4] minus [0. 5] and that comes out to equal minus er [3.5] one-two-three-eight [0.3] ohms per K [0.4] okay [5.2] this is [0.2] four-thou that's about twen-, yeah that's about a twentieth of that number right [0.3] this one here [0.6] what i'm doing is i'm substituting here obviously an R [0.7] minus R- [0.4] B over T-squared so in this case [0.3] the resistance is at lot less [0.4] four-five-four [0.5] so i think my gradient's also going to be a bo-, lot less [0.3] it's not quite in the ratio [0.4] because my T is now three-seven-three- [0.4] squared [0.4] instead of two-seven-three [0.8] and if i put those numbers you can see that one there cancels with that [0.5] that goes into that it's going to be about ten isn't it in fact it's [0.4] minus- [0.2] thirteen ohms per K [4.4] right now the next thing i get here [0.5] is what happens if [0.2] A [0.6] changes by one degree [3.4] okay [0.7] so let's have a look at this first one here A changed by one degree [1.0] then this means [0.7] A changes by one per cent [0.3] right [0.5] so what's going to happen here if A changes by one per cent [0.5] is that my value of R is going to change by one per cent [8.3] so R changes [1.6] by [0.3] one per cent [0.2] of [0.5] twenty-three-thousand ohms [2.4] and that is going to equal therefore two-hundred-and-thirty ohms [6.9] and what is that equivalent to in temperature [0.5] well twelve-thirty-eight ohms [1.5] is equivalent to one K [0.5] so two-hundred-and-thirty ohms [2.7] is equivalent to er [0.4] two-hundred-and-thirty over twelve-thirty-eight [0.6] which i got to be nought-point-one-eight degrees centigrade [0.2] okay [4.1] now you c-, you can you see that it's the A changing the R that's the big effect we've also changed D-R D-T [0.4] by one part in a [0.2] hundred [0.4] in other words this number [0.4] here [0.5] er [0.3] twelve-thirty-eight has changed by one per cent but that's rather a small change [0.6] changing twelve-thirty- eight by one per cent [0.9] the main thing is the change in the value of R [1. 0] er [0.5] giving a drift [0.4] which looks like a change of temperature of point-one-eight degrees centigrade [2.7] and then the last one here [1.2] let's have a look at this one [2.3] now R changes by [1.9] one per cent [0.2] of a [0. 2] four-hundred-and-fifty-four [1.4] and that to my reckoning is four-point- five ohms [1.7] and we've got thirteen ohms is e-, equivalent to one K [0.4] so four-point-five ohms here [0.6] is equal to er [1.0] er [0.5] four-point-five over thirteen [0.4] and that's actually almost [0.2] it's a it's a little bit worse isn't it it's about a quar-, a third that [4.4] okay so basically [0.3] this region here [1.2] at the lower temperature with the higher resistance and the steeper slope it's more sensitive [0.8] and less sensitive at the higher [0. 2] temperatures [0.8] i think you can see here that allegedly if you er [0.7] you know if you had an ohmeter [0.9] that read to an ohm here [0.6] then you might think you'd be able to measure [0.3] this temperature that's a resolution problem isn't it [0.4] suppose i could reme-, measure a change of one ohm [0.7] i might say to myself oh i can measure the temperature to a thousandth of a degree K [0.8] 'cause that's the resolution of the instrument [0.5] but in fact suppose A due to ageing and this is what happens it changes by one per cent [0.8] and the fact i can resolve these ohms to one ohm one part in a thousand [0.6] doesn't really tell me [0.4] it's just like having a voltmeter and putting a few more extra decimal places at the end [0.6] that doesn't mean to say i might have got a more accurate instrument [0. 4] might have more resolution [0.6] but supposing that A is changing as the thing ages from month to month [0.6] then that's my limit there [0.5] rather than just saying i can measure ohms incredibly accurately [1.1] it's a difference between resolution [0.5] and accuracy [3.0] right let's take a little bit of a break then [0.4] now [0.8] hopefully er [0.6] having tried these and struggled with them going through them [0.5] is helping you to follow a little bit what's going on