nf0090: okay i think we'd better get started i'm namex and i'm just giving a lecture er today on Max Weber and er The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism which is the text er for this seminar and i do just er for the semin- , the seminar that goes with with this lecture i do just want to stress it is absolutely vital that you read this text if you read nothing else for this read this text a lot of the essays the additional reading that you have that you will find on Max Weber a lot of it is pretty impenetrable some of it is clear but the clearest thing you can read and the most er wonderful text you can read is just what he wrote himself on this so get the text and read it er it's not that expensive if you can't get it from the library it's something you should have er in your your own library for time to come it is a great er er er er a great er text okay well i want to start off first of all by saying a little bit about the life of of Max Weber who was he who wrote The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism well Frank Parkin in his er little survey for sociologists which is quite readable this is this with Giddens is er is a a fairly good summary if you er haven't read anything on on Weber before er he provides us with a very brief very brief and pretty irreverent portrait of Max Weber as a bourgeois scholar of wilhemi-, Wilhemine Germany with a Victorian pater familias er and [sigh] man who had lots of Oedipus complexes er that he had melancholia and frustrated political ambitions and along the way we see out of this coming enorm-, vast enormous productive energies in er studies on the law religious systems political economy and authority systems er i want to fill out a little bit about this life er before discussing the text er and this tour de force The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism Weber was born in eighteen-sixty-four in Erfurt a Hanseatic town this is quite important in his formation er one of the towns er in the the hansea-, g-, er in the Hanseatic League er one of the merchant towns a classic m-, early modern er th-, merchant towns of er er of Germany his father was a jurist and municipal councillor and he came from a family of linen merchants and textile manufacturers er we can see a lot of this text the what he's writing in this text being written in that context in response to er his own family background amongst er er his community background and his family background amongst this er these merchants he moved to Berlin and er er his father that is the family mo-, moved to Berlin er which was soon to become the booming capital of Bismarck's Reich and er Weber's father was to become a pro-, prosperous politician he was a right wing liberal who used his home as a talking shop for local academics for businessmen artists and various other political bigwigs now in Parkin's er words Weber would have listened from an early l-, age to a lot of high-minded chatter and less than enlightened politics but he also had a mother not just a father we have to look at the role of mothers in er the formation of our intellectuals as well as the f-, the fathers er and she was a cultured and liberal Protestant but a woman who had become an overburdened hausfrau she was religious and felt a vocation to charity and good works but these things were of no interest to her husband er and certainly parental relations in the family home er were estranged it was clear that Weber senior was a martinet to his children and very er overbearing and autocratic er in his behaviour to his wife er now what happens er with with Weber is that from his school days he drew away from the the piety of his mother and the philistinism of his father and er decided that academic pursuits were going to be his his way in life and he went off to university in Heidelberg there he certainly played the er the role of the the student prince er engaging in all kinds of er fun and games as well as a a bit of work er but he later continued his studies in Strasburg and Göttingen where he studied law he went he did his period of of military service and after his studies went on to take up service in the law courts in Berlin er where he worked on a PhD thesis er the first thesis he did his PhD sis-, thesis went back to his own origins he worked on the trading companies during the Middle Ages and er in eighteen-ninety he passed a second law exam and he did what the er followed the the common German practice which continues to this day of doing a second thesis the habilitatation h-, habilitation and with a treatise on the history of agrarian institutions and this was a sociology an economic and cultural analysis of ancient societies now finally this is a long period of study that he that he went through he then married er the grand niece of his father Marianne Schnitger and lived the life of a successful young scholar in Berlin where he became a professor of er economics er he er he was in Berlin as a as a as a young scholar and then he went on to become a professor of of economics at Freiburg in eighteen-ninety- four er er what we what he did in frei-, he had a huge workload in Freiburg and just seemed absolutely obsessed with work this er certainly became a very important characteristic of his life er he went on to take a chair at Heidelberg in eighteen-ninety- six er but in eighteen-ninety- seven he er and he'd oh as i'll just sort of say a little bit he er he when he the chair that he took in in Heidelberg replaced one of the er er a m-, a man named Kniess who was one of the heads of the German Historical School so he was very much part of that er that er general historiographical tradition of the time the German Historical School a lot of er er a lot of er people at the time writing histories with a great er economic and sociological sort of content to them and er but he has what happens then in eighteen-ninety-seven he has a crisis his father died er this is was the the onset of his his crisis his father died er and he d-, just before his father's death he'd had a huge quarrel with him a huge fight with him over er the way he was his er Weber's mother was being treated by his father and er he didn't see ge-, get to see his father before he died he'd had this big f-, big fight with him so felt terrible guilt and remorse after this and had a nervous breakdown so and he suffered for the rest of his life from severe depression interspersed by manic work and periods of travel so that really was sort of marked his life from from that time onward we see er this er this this [sigh] conflict with the father and then this period of s-, of er a nervous breakdown after after his father's death and er it affecting him for the rest of his life well in nineteen-o-two he returned to some duties he did some teaching ad-, and administration but he was mainly doing a lot of travelling er after this time and er he travelled i-, during this time and he travelled er through to Italy he hoped he would recuperate in Italy but he couldn't concentrate and er he did start to do some writing and in nineteen-o-four wrote the first chapter of The Protestant Ethic so he writes that that first chapter then but immediately after that he set off to the U-S and it was his it was you know this was er a really a big event for him it was his trip to his first trip to America and he went with er other leading figures German figures of the time Werner Sombart and er and Troeltsch but particularly Sombart who was someone i'll we we'll be mentioning him la-, after who that he he came to debate The Protestant Ethic er with now he was enthralled by er the United States by the pace of life in the big cities er he was bemused by the democratic customs of the natives there but found in in it absolutely exhilarating experience er er seeing it and he came to write about it quite a lot in the The Protestant Ethic he he wanted to enter sympathetically into the New World er but wanted to retain his capacity for an informed judgement on the directions it was taking er he was absolutely er fascinated by the characteristics of American capitalism er impressed by the extent of the waste of human life in er this frenetic activity of money making er in in the U-S and in New York decided he would look for material that he could use to develop this the chapter that he'd started before he'd left and it started the The Protestant Ethic so that experience in America was also extreme was absolutely fundamental to what he came to write in The Protestant Ethic er now after he returned to German er Germany he finished the finished the text then the Russian er the first ru-, Russian revolution er was something that was er redirected his attention and his scholarly interest and this man of enormous er energies he he was also you know working flat out er well he had these these periods when he sort of went in for this sort of manic work and he managed to learn Russian in bed before getting up each morning imagine it [laughter] er so that he could follow the Russian daily press and he wrote a piece on the nineteen-o-five revolution so he's very much one of these er what we find er with er with ver-, Weber he's very much one of this generation of universal scholars that we find er in this period a lawyer an economist a historian a philosopher he ranged across these fields he was also well acquainted with the the thi-, the liter-, all the lot of literature on the theology of his day er he did an enormous quantity of work and er i have to say it was a rather different kind of setting than er we find in universities today there was a lot of research time available to then and there was no er pressure for rapid publication so he was d-, er ranging across these fields doing a huge amount of research and er learning a a huge amount over many fields but er in a rather different setting than er than we face in in in universities now er but this was something that certainly allowed him to range widely over the humanities er and we find him being transformed er the the whole world of the of the the German scholar the German er er the the German professor over that period was being transformed from er a petty bourgeois sort of character harried by money into an upper class academician with a large house and the facilities to establish an international salon culture so he's moved certainly moved into that that world by this time he was also er Weber was also one of the er the last of the political professors er he made contributions er er detached contributions to science and er and a-, also acted as a as a political f-, figure in the intellectual vanguard of the middle classes er at the time but he was much less successful than he would like to have been he was a sort of he he tried to have a political career almost did it but didn't er he er at the age of fifty-four he allowed his name to go forward as a candidate for the German Democratic Party but didn't bother to canvass thought that people should just know who he was and er and and vote for him er he thought he expected he would be he would be adopted as the party candidate but was passed over for a local non-entity and he was very deeply hurt by this so at the end of the day this was a man who was better about writing about the mechanics of power than dealing in its practicalities er so er he he w-, de-, was very disappointed and he actually he ended up dying shortly after this at the age of fifty-six but gosh he was just fifty-six and the volume of the his his scholarly output by this time was absolutely amazing er but this inde-, and indeed this was one of the shortest er tracts that he he he ever wrote it was a short and inspired piece of writing er it represented Weber's early turning to broader cultural themes and one of er it was very much one of the early pieces he wrote after his breakdown er as i said before it was written in two parts over the period nineteen-o-four to five er interspersed by this t-, er trip to America er now just to say er something on the context in which it was written i just want to er to set that out first of all Weber's often thought about as a theorist who championed the cause of the independent role of er ideas and social life but he also had strong materias-, materialist leanings so we can sort of er debate that that issue er there's a lot of misunderstandings of The Protestant Ethic er really taken from Baudelairizing the thesis creating a kind of Baudelairized thesis that Calvinism was the principal cause of capitalism of ideas leading er to the to the economic system er but this is not er this is not how we should characterize er the argument in this text first of all we have to see that there was a very important social and political context for this essay er i d-, i want to to to come to the characteristics of of of that context it was written in the context of a contemporary debate in Germany on the differences between Protestants and Catholics and the impact of this on social structure and social status and the broader background to that goes back to the context of the Kulturkampf in Prussia that period which Bismarck had launched of er er discrimination against the Catholics so this turns of course a lot of the the civil service the er the state sort of denies this but what it turns into is an academic er aspects of it turning into an academic debate on the positions of Catholics er in the society and and the the er the the Catholic er Protestant division the other er er context i want to draw attention to er in this is the whole approach that that Weber took in writing er writing this this essay it's a very simple er simple er si-, simple approach a sort of simple er formulation of the question er he combined what he managed to do was to combine a sensitivity to diverse structural meanings er in this with an insi-, an insistence on an abs-, a fundamental causal role for er material factors in influencing the course of history he drew on elements of Marx but he was not definitely not a a Marxist never accepted er Marxism rejected its politics but he certainly did draw on elements of Marx the essay was also as i i it it presents a sort of fairly simple formulation because it was highly focused he wanted to make a very clear and focused explanation of what he was putting forward he rejected er a multidimensional analysis of the whole problem betw-, of religion and society and focused on the economic sector was the eco-, he w-, he focused right down into the the economic sector and the rise of what he called a rational capitalism so he was interested in two things a rational capitalism and its religious preconditions now the other interesting thing about the religious preconditions that he looks at he doesn't look at all religious preconditions by any means he foc-, he doesn't even look at Germans and Lutherans instead he focuses in on Anglo-Saxons he talks about Americans a lot here as well and the Calvinist world so he centres his argument on on those aspects so he was looking to find in this much more focused er approach to to find the guiding principles of conduct and the value system governing patterns of behaviour that's really what he's trying to do now let's turn to his argument which you will find by reading the text okay very clearly set out first of all he tells us he wants to tell us about capitalism and you'll find on your handout my spelling isn't very good so you'd better correct er er perhaps some kind of slip there but er not mens but means okay now if we turn to his argument he he tells us first what he er er what he he wants to single out in his definitions of capitalism what The Protestant Ethic starts with er The Protestant Ethic starts with is a very fairly broad and e-, very contestable if you read these you will find these very contestable but er er contrasts he wants to set out contrasts between the development of the West and the East so we get the West the the East and the West er set out as different systems and he looks at rational systems in the West he sees s-, argues there are more rational systems developed in the West er in music in architecture in perspective er that there's trained officials of the state that the state er er itself has sort of a rational structure with a written constitutional constitution rationally ordained law and an administration bound to rules or laws capitalism was not then identified with greed for gain but identified with the pursuit of profit an ever renewed profit by means of continuous rational capitalistic enterprise so that's what he he sees as as the central er the central point in in capitalism it was that pursuit of profit er and ever renewed profit and that pursued by rational capitalistic enterprise now he argues certainly ca-, er calculation was carried on in India where the decimal system was invented but that decimal system was only really made use of by developing capitalism in the West he argues er in India it led to no modern bookkeeping er and he cites other examples like China where we see origins of er mathematics and mechanics t-, er but er the again the technical utilization of this knowledge er was not taken up in the way that it was in in the West so we have that East-West comparison set out a-, at the beginning er so er finally just to to recap er capitalist action as we see in the West involved regular pursuit of profit through economic exchange now Weber also goes into different types of capitalism okay he's got er the the the different types of capitalism he he enquires into these were set out as booty capitalism that is the robber barons pariah capitalism now this is a kind of commercial activity which he identified with forms of money lending and again sets this discusses this in terms of Jewish enterprise now this led to a lot of debate over the the text later on er especially the er debate that he has with Sombart who takes this further and argues that er we can see sort of origins of capitalism being tied up with er the er enterprise of the Jews er but i think it's a very interesting er area i won't be able to go into it in any depth today but it's something that er you may want to pursue in your seminars and er and your essays but that was an a a fair-, a central part of the some of the critique of the work the er what he had to say about this area he identified as er i'll put it down here pariah capitalism okay er now er partly Weber didn't think that this kind of capitalism was central to the whole process because of the er partly because the Jews were excluded from the core of economic life er and this was a capitalism that opered operated on the fringes of of er the society so er he doesn't er he doesn't pursue that er as as he might have now he also er set out traditional capitalism that's large scale lending er large scale undertakings in all civilizations which were set up for specific ends and then finally rational capitalism economic activity geared to a regular market the use of bookkeeping systematic pursuit of profit this is the kind of capitalism that he's specifically interested in and only in the West do we see he argues this kind of capitalistic activity becoming associated with the rational organization of formally free labour a disciplined labour force nf0090: another er [sigh] he he s-, he goes into this in a little more detail on the the different types of socio-economic pac-, factors distin-, distinguishing the European experience from India and China so we get er more detail then provided on India and China er what he sees coming out in the West is in contrast to his perception of the East is a separation of productive enterprise from the household in in the West the development of the western city another characteristic and er a rational practice of juridical er well er the the rationalization of juridical practice the development of a nation state administered by bureaucratic officials and finally double entry bookkeeping double entry bookkeeping always plays a big er big part in these conceptions of of the West okay and so out of this we get er a characterization of what becomes an ideal type this was a very important for Weber the definition of these various ideal types so this kind of rational capitalism that he's described with all these various er characteristics i've set out er this became his ideal type and it was also associated with a specific character the culture of the entrepreneur now where does he find this culture of the entrepreneur er now the examples he draws our attention to are American examples he takes us back to er Ben Franklin and the philosophy of American capitalism all of these these aphorisms that are so famous er in Ben Franklin remember time is money he that can earn ten shillings a day by his labour and goes abroad or sits idle one half that day though he spends but sixpence during his diversion or idleness ought not to reckon that the only expense he has really spent or rather thrown away five shillings besides remember credit is money if a man lets his money lie in my hands after it is due he gives me the interest or as much as i can make of it during that time er this amounts to a considerable s-, er sum where a man has good and large credit and makes good use of it money can beket beget money er i'm just i'm just er and its offspring can ge-, beget more and so on and he goes on to say that er the most trifling actions that affect a man's credit are to be regarded the sound of your hammer at five in the morning or at eight at night heard by a creditor makes him easy six months longer boy now you know it but if he sees you at the billiard table or hears your voice at a tavern when you should be at work he sends for his money the next day demands it before he can receive it in a lump so these are the sorts of er the aphorisms that became that he he identifies with with American capitalism and er sees as as an aspect of that culture of the entrepreneur that he wants to draw into this analysis and so we get him moving on to where does this come from and moving on to this concept of the calling er so we move here into religion the calling and er ca-, Calvinism and Weber in a-, as he did before in trying to define capitalism in con-, and looking at a comparative er analysis of East and West does so also with er religion he looks at a comparison of religions and er argues that the behaviour of his Protestant en-, entrepreneurs differs from that of entrepreneurs under all other world religions and so this this t-, er this book then became a fragment in a study of world religions that he embarked on er er later er where he studied Judaism Hinduism Buddhism and Confucianism er he said of Hinduism that it was otherly er otherworldly directed towards escaping the encumbrances of the material world rather than rational mastery of that world er he wrote about certainly wrote about the period when Hinduism became systematized and trade and manufacture reached its peak in India i mean we cannot deny that the great merchants of the er er of the world during from the er the or across the early modern period into the eighteenth century before they were pushed aside especially by the British er the great merchants of the south er the South er China Seas the er the whole of the Indian Ocean area that whole area between the Mediterranean and China er were that whole area was dominated by Indian merchants trading across this va-, vast area so certainly it didn't er mean that the Indians were not not good a-, good at this but he argued the affect of Hinduism and the caste system inhibited economic development compared to the West in China he noted high er levels of evolution but with Confucianism this was one it was one that had er lacked the activism of Calvinism now he comes into probably his greatest problems with Judaism which did er er certainly introduce the tradition of ethical prophesy er involved the propagation of a divine mission but again er it lacked the active missionary zeal of ethical prophesy that we find er in er in Calvinism okay now but but what he goes er he goes on from those world religions to set out then a divide between Calvinism and cath-, Catholicism so we get to Christianity Christianity is the one that's going to do it but it has to be Calvinist Christianity and he notices there a sharp contrast between Catholic and Protestant attitudes and draws some broad generalizations from this he argues that the Reformation er er the the Reformation brought not the elimination of the church's control over everyday life but the substitution of a new form of control he argued that the Catholic Church was relatively lax in these controls and have er previously and er many of them were scarcely perceptible but Calvinism penetrated to all departments of private and public public life infinitely burdensome earnestly enforced was er would be today he he argues it would be for us t-, us today er er an absolutely unbearable form of ecclesiastical control er so this was som-, something that had become the strongest of of the fates er Catholicism in addition was associated with magic and superstition the cycle of sin repentance atonement release followed by renewed sin and mediated by a priest this was his er very much his his image of er of of Catholicism er now i have recently found it fascinating to see the way that this contrast between Protestantism and capitalism was played out in another contemporary and highly influential text Thomas Mann's Buddenbrooks so i just want to say something about this Thomas Mann like er er like er Weber was born into a Hanseatic town was born in in er in Lübeck from a line of er prosperous and influential merchants he was one of these sons who did not follow his er the path into er er becoming a s-, a merchant in turn the story that he describes in Buddenbrooks is in some ways er not actually his own story but it follows that er there there is ver-, echoes of that right er right through the book but he has an absolute fascinating er er penetration in the book of mercantile society and bourgeois family life in these north German Protestant towns there's a wonderful character in the bo-, the b-, central character of the book i i indeed is a woman er the one of the sisters in the family Antoni an-, ant-, or Antonia she would she would have been and she's called Toni and she goes off to Munich at one point and describes her impressions of the Catholics this is er really er really fa-, she she describes Munich she says yes one has a g-, has to get used to a great deal it is a real foreign country the strange currency and the difficulty of understanding the common people i speak too fast to them and they seem to talk gibberish to me and then the Catholicism i hate it as you know i have no respect for it er as she goes on to dis-, er writes a very amusing letter home about her encounter with er an archbishop or a a pri-, er a high level priest who er gave me an ogling look out of the window like a lieutenant of the guard [laugh] er this is er your your er your protes-, she says to her mother your Protestant er missionaries are certainly nothing compared to this rakish old prince of the church er so there's this whole this is sort of echoes right right through this this er this c-, er conflict between er the the Protestants and the Catholics and later Thomas Buddenbrook er who the is the the eldest son in his family and carries on er the family firm er this family merchant firm he has er er premonitions of his own downfall and that of the family firm and i this think it's very striking the way he writes this and i want to also tell you this was published first in nineteen-o-two before The Protestant Ethic was published so this is the kind of thing that is around at the time that er that er that er the The Protestant Ethic was being written er he talks about being in a sort of de-, depressed mood he says it may pass but just now i feel older than i am i have business cares at the director's meeting of the Büchen railway yesterday Council Hegenstorm simply talked me down refuted my connecs-, contentions nearly made me appear ridiculous i feel that could not have happened to me before it was as though something had begun to slip as though i hadn't the firm grip i had on events what is success it is an inner an indescribable force resourcefulness power of vision a consciousness that i am by my mere existence exerting pressure on the movement of life above me it is my belief in the adaptability of life to my own ends fortune and success lie with ourselves we must hold them firmly deep within us for as soon as something begins to slip to relax to get tired within us then everything without us will reb-, er rebel and struggle to withdraw from our influence one thing follows another blow after blow and the man is finished er and i have often thought of a Turkish proverb which says when the house is finished death come it doesn't need to be death but the decline the falling off the beginning of the end er and he carries this on but it's an extraordinary statement of this er the imp-, er the importance ascribed to this inner force within ourselves which becomes in Weber's terms the the calling well let's er let's look at the calling [sigh] now the notion of the calling was introduced by the Reformation and projected religious behaviour into the day to day world it was a moral responsibility the moral responsibility of the Protestant which was accumulative responsibility it was not a cycle as in the Catholic conception of s-, of sin repentance forgiveness the idea of the calling was present in Luther's doctrines it was more developed by the Puritan sects of in Calvinism Methodism Pietism and Baptism er it was most focused i-, in Calvinism er and it became obligatory under this er this syste-, this idea of the calling to regard oneself as chosen a lack of certainty was indicative in-, of insufficient faith performance of good works in worldly activity was accepted as a medium whereby surety could be demonstrated so success in a calling came to regar-, re-, be regarded as a sign of being one of the elect it's very much that that religious conception the accumulation of wealth was sanctioned it was okay er as long as it was combined with sober i-, a sober industrious career and not with the expenditure on luxury so Calvinism er Weber er believed had the dynamism to supply the moral energy the drive of capitalist entrepreneurs now Weber found much to admire in Calvinism for its effectiveness but he also found it deeply problematic so let's look at about at how he he writes about it nf0090: he he looks at predestination and shows that there were no magical means of attaining the grace of God for those to whom God had decided to deny it and you didn't know whether you were going to fall into that category there were the harsh very harsh doctrines of absolute trans-, transcendentality of God and the corruption of everything pertaining to the c-, to the flesh an inner isolation of the individual er so he f-, s-, you f-, see in this the the reason for the negative attitude of Puritanism to sensuous and emotional elements in culture and religion er and the God of Calvinism demanded of believers not single good works but a life of good works combined with a unified system a consistent method of conduct as a whole now for the Catholics by contrast there was absolution a cycle of sin repentance atonement release er what f-, happens with Calvinism is the idea of the necessity of proving one's faith in worldly activity now if we turn to er er turn er just got another turn further to look at er asceticism which is an aspect of of er Calvinism now Weber pursues these themes of the relentless the all pervasive character of Calvinism er he talks about the waste of time being the first and deadliest sin human life infinitely short and precious er it's very precious to make w-, sure of one's own election a loss of time would be caused through sociability idle talk luxury in the Puritan view we see the providential character of the the play of private economic interest taking on a new emphasis the p-, and there's this sort of the whole er providentialism of of the the system er the the providential purpose of the division of labour was to be known by its fruits and again the asceticism is very er er an ascetic er er discipline something that is er er an enemy to er hostility to sport to recreation to spontaneous pleasure er all of these things would lead away from er work towards er the calling er and again if you look at er some of the the further literature on this he he finds in the er the fine h-, a-, fine arts a hatred of anything that smacked of superstition so critique of the theatre not no participation in the theatre er it's very interesting that in er Thomas Mann's Buddenbrooks the second son who goes off the rails is always going off to the theatre it's er he's er that's er the the sort of negative er side of er er er the er the the very negative attitudes towards of of Calvinism to er to this okay now er if we look at the one of the things that that comes up here is what about the idea of possessions er it allowed this this whole ethos allowed for the accumulation of possessions but if you look to the idea of a man's duty to his possessions er with Calvinism he suborts him-, bo-, subordinates himself as the obedient steward a steward of these possessions a steward er or an acquisitive er o-, of an acquisitive machine it was the greater the possessions he had the heavier the feeling of er responsibility for them er so we see this sort of increase attempt to increase the glory of God and so increasing these possessions by re-, er restless effort er but worldly pr-, er Protestant er asceticism acted against the spontaneous enjoyment of er possessions so the possessions that were there they were not to be luxuries restricted consumption o-, of luxuries er okay now Weber's Calvinist er at the end of the day couldn't bring himself to accept the presumption of salvation and so no matter how hard he worked how er how f-, er fa-, great his accumulation of wealth was how successful a businessman he was how important a member of the business community or a s-, political community he was er he suffered the anguish that only rational world activity can mollify and er would have t-, had no er er er no sense that he w-, had succeeded in becoming er t-, becoming one of the elect er succeeded i-, in reaching God and so [sigh] er we have material goods then cr-, gaining an increasing an inecexorable power over the lives of men and this is where Weber the text seems to be leading in a very i mean it's very interesting direction for the text sort of just at this juncture because it looks as you're reading this text that Weber is er praising this great cal-, you know this great entrepreneurial figure with this sort of er the sense of the calling the er this Calvinist er impetus to work but he shows here just how much power these possess-, the material possessions the the success in economic life starts to take over his whole entire er self er so victoriou-, victorious capitalism he argues rests on mechanical foundations and er this is where i just want to er read you thi-, this passage because this is where the whole thing it's just you got to get to the end and you got to read the whole thing and get to the end 'cause he starts to talk about er the iron cage of capitalism that's where it all ends up where er everything is er we have this sort of being entirely controlled by this effort to work effort to to reach God through through this this kind of material success er and the possessions actually taking a total grip on on hi-, er his soul and he says er he says here er since ascetic-, er asceticism er undertook to remodel the world and work out its ideals in the world er material goods have gained an increasing and finally an ec-, inexorable power over the lives of men as at no previous period of history er he goes back in a in a previous paras-, he t-, he talks about the the early er some of the earlier er writers on this Baxter writing that the care for external goods should only lie in the soldiers of the saint like a light cloak which can be thrown aside at any moment but Weber says but fate decreed the cloak should become an iron cage today the spirit of re-, religious asceticism where there finally who knows has escaped from the cage but victorious capitalism since it rests on mechanical foundations needs its support no longer er the rosy blush of its laughing air the Enlightenment seems to be irretrievably fading and the idea of duty and one's cal-, calling prowls about in our lives like the dos-, ghost of dead religious beliefs er where the fulfilment of the calling cannot directly be related to the highest spiritual and cultural values or when on the other hand it need not be felt simply as economic compulsion the individual abandons the attempt to justify it and so does it without knowing why er so there's where he ends up in the text who will live in this cage in the future er specialists without spirits sensualists without heart this nullity imagines it has attained a level of civilization never before achieved so that's where he he gets us to er you can ask to what extent was this an endorsement of the The Protestant Ethic or its ultimate critique er now we er have er there's a n-, a whole er series of are-, areas in which we could take this text there's a number of issues that arose immediately the er The Protestant Ethic was set up there were a lot of critiques made of it by a whole series of er writers in inside and outside Germany at the time it has become a subject of intense debate about its meaning and about er the areas where Weber went wrong et cetera er and these covered a whole series of er of topics such as his er definition of er different relid-, er what what he said wha-, what he said characterized various religions er his characterizations of the differences between eastern and western er countries er his differences that he set out between Calvinism and er Catholicism what he had to say about Judaism these are a whole series of issues where there was a lot of er dispute and debate and er you will find that discussion carried on at length in the articles about The Protestant Ethic that that are on your reading list er and though er okay i i think that that's er i th-, i'll just er take it to there i think you will see the disputes ranging over these the-, these areas and take them up in your text er and y-, and in your seminar okay er so i'll stop there